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Old 01-11-2014   #81
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LOL at this nugget from Kiper about Locker, "..He didn't have a great final year at Washington coming into the draft..."

No kidding. It was a huge red flag that everybody saw, and yet all the ESPN draft gurus glossed over it as if it didn't mean anything. Now that the writing is on the wall he is going to use that as if it's something he agreed with at the time? Funny.
I still remember when he called Reggie Bush the next Gale Sayers and Barry Sanders packaged into one player. And 4 years later, including 2 Mario Pro-Bowls and 2 Bush injury filled seasons, he still had the balls to say Mario was the wrong pick.
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I think the top 3 QBs will be gone by the 4th pick. And Rams take OT Jake Matthews.

I remember few thinking RG3 would be a high No. 1 pick until he blew away everyone with a magnificent pro day and his stock soared.

It's interesting how many think they have the QBs already ranked when there's so much more to go in the scouting process.

Gil Brandt on Manziel: "He's like Tarkenton. Only better." Uh, Gil, Fran Tarkenton is in the Hall of Fame. "I know. And I mean what I say."

Gil Brandt, who's been scouting in the NFL since 1959 with Cowboys, has J Football as No. 1 prospect in the draft. He loves Manziel.

I'm still amazed to read and hear so many nationally predicting the Texans won't take a QB with their first-round pick. It'll be a QB!
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I'm beginning to come around to Gil Brandt's way of thinking .... of those three QB's , give me Manziel .... with Bridgewater as my second option.
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I'm beginning to come around to Gil Brandt's way of thinking .... of those three QB's , give me Manziel .... with Bridgewater as my second option.
Manziel is going to get his narrow little azz broken in 2 sometime very shortly after he arrives to the NFL if he keeps playing the brand of ball he did in college.
He's not 250 like Cam or Luck or Ben and just won't hold up to that kind of pounding and therefor will need to learn to play in the pocket. And Manziel as a pocket passer just ain't no Johhny Football.
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Manziel is going to get his narrow little azz broken in 2 sometime very shortly after he arrives to the NFL if he keeps playing the brand of ball he did in college.
He's not 250 like Cam or Luck or Ben and just won't hold up to that kind of pounding and therefor will need to learn to play in the pocket. And Manziel as a pocket passer just ain't no Johhny Football.
How many big hits did he take at A&M?
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I'm still amazed to read and hear so many nationally predicting the Texans won't take a QB with their first-round pick. It'll be a QB!

Too many comparatively graded QBs in this draft. I think a number of these guys taken in the second or later are going to end up having very nice NFL careers. Mettenberger, McCarren, Murray, even Garrapulo if no one takes him in the first.
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How many big hits did he take at A&M?
I didn't see that many games but of the ones I saw he got banged up real good a couple times, and that includes the bowl game against Duke. He was hurting and had to leave the field. He is just not a big guy and will need to significantly modify his game when he arrives in the NFL.
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How many big hits did he take at A&M?
Enough for his biggest supporters to blame all of his issues on injuries he suffered during the season and that the only reason he was even playing in those games was because he was so tough and competitive.
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Too many comparatively graded QBs in this draft. I think a number of these guys taken in the second or later are going to end up having very nice NFL careers. Mettenberger, McCarren, Murray, even Garrapulo if no one takes him in the first.
Yea I don't think there's that much difference between these guys and the so-called first tier including Manziel & Bridgwater.
And is John McClain that close to the people running the Texans so he would haveinfo on their Draft plans ? I doubt if they've even completed their prelim evaluation of potential #1 picks at this point ?
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Too many comparatively graded QBs in this draft. I think a number of these guys taken in the second or later are going to end up having very nice NFL careers. Mettenberger, McCarren, Murray, even Garrapulo if no one takes him in the first.
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Yea I don't think there's that much difference between these guys and the so-called first tier including Manziel & Bridgwater.
And is John McClain that close to the people running the Texans so he would haveinfo on their Draft plans ? I doubt if they've even completed their prelim evaluation of potential #1 picks at this point ?
Well once the draft is done y'all are going to find the NFL disagrees with your assessment that there isn't much difference.

No McClain doesn't have great inside info into the Texans unless things have changed under OB, but even a blind walrus can see a 1st round QB is a 90% chance.
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Well once the draft is done y'all are going to find the NFL disagrees with your assessment that there isn't much difference.

No McClain doesn't have great inside info into the Texans unless things have changed under OB, but even a blind walrus can see a 1st round QB is a 90% chance.
I'm only seeing marginal differences between Manziel & Bridgewater & Bartles vs
Carr & Garoppolo & Fales. We will see what BOB & RS see ? Perhaps you are right, or maybe not ? It's very early in the process.
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It's very early in the process.
No, it is very late in the process. It is only early in the frenetic draftnik season. The process began when the players hit their college campuses. The players have finished their play time and college careers. The only thing left for them is the underwear olympics.
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No, it is very late in the process. It is only early in the frenetic draftnik season. The process began when the players hit their college campuses. The players have finished their play time and college careers. The only thing left for them is the underwear olympics.
Agreed. The #1 tool for scouting prospects is their film, which is complete.

You use combines and workouts to verify what you saw on tape, not the other way around.
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I'm referring to the Texans' player evaluation process in preparation of their
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BOB: Alright guys, who do we have at QB?

Staff: Case Keenum, Matt Schaub, and TJ Yates

BOB: OK, who is the best QB available in this year's draft?
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Agreed. The #1 tool for scouting prospects is their film, which is complete.

You use combines and workouts to verify what you saw on tape, not the other way around.
Well of course the film is there, the most recent college football season was completed months ago. But O'brien has just in recent days completed assembling his new staff, so they've had scant time to complete their process and conclude their player assessments, rankings, etc.
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These guys don't sit around picking their noses all year long waiting for January and a truckload of film to arrive:

Mike Maccagnan - Director of College Scouting
Bob Beers - College Scout
Ryan Cavanaugh - College Scout
Rob Kisiel - College Scout
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These guys don't sit around picking their noses all year long waiting for January and a truckload of film to arrive:

Mike Maccagnan - Director of College Scouting
Bob Beers - College Scout
Ryan Cavanaugh - College Scout
Rob Kisiel - College Scout
Mike Martin - College Scout
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These guys don't sit around picking their noses all year long waiting for January and a truckload of film to arrive:

Mike Maccagnan - Director of College Scouting
Bob Beers - College Scout
Ryan Cavanaugh - College Scout
Rob Kisiel - College Scout
Mike Martin - College Scout
Bob Merritt - College Scout
Nathan Trott - College Scout
I'm not sure who's still there and who's gone among the Texans' college scouting department after BOBs coup of that staff which left several in managerial positions in the unemployment line, but I know last year these guys were scouting personnel on their assumption that they'd play in Kubiak's WCO/ZBS and Wade Phillips 3-4, and obviously that's all changed.
But in any case scouts accumulate data and recommend, they aren't decision makers. We got a long ways to go here.
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Manziel is going to get his narrow little azz broken in 2 sometime very shortly after he arrives to the NFL if he keeps playing the brand of ball he did in college.
He's not 250 like Cam or Luck or Ben and just won't hold up to that kind of pounding and therefor will need to learn to play in the pocket. And Manziel as a pocket passer just ain't no Johhny Football.

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I don't remember ever seeing him take one of these. Manziel is very good at avoiding big hits. He was used as a runner at A&M a lot. That won't be the cSe in the pro's. He will be just fine in the pros.
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