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Old 01-07-2014   #61
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The Texans could trade away this entire draft class for future picks if they want to move heaven and earth.
I've considered joking that the Texans should do this.

Trade 1-1 for some teams #1 pick for the next 3 years.

That way BOB gets to evaluate the players for a year and can make an informed decision of where to draft in the future.
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Houston will NOT draft a QB with the #1 pick in the first round.

Bank on it ...
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Houston will NOT draft a QB with the #1 pick in the first round.

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I'm now more confident than ever that they will in fact go QB first round.
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I pray to the good Lord above that Lombardi's dumb enough to trade up for Manziel. They do have two 1st round picks that I would love to have. Although, two 1's might be a bit stiff for moving up 3 spots

Sounds dang good though
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I pray to the good Lord above that Lombardi's dumb enough to trade up for Manziel. They do have two 1st round picks that I would love to have. Although, two 1's might be a bit stiff for moving up 3 spots

Sounds dang good though
I'm all in on Bridgewater at this point, unless a pretty big obstacle/issue pops up between now and the draft.

But even then, the opportunity to get both of CLE's 1st round picks to move back just 3 spots would make me stop and think.

The more options we have the better.
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I'm all in on Bridgewater at this point, unless a pretty big obstacle/issue pops up between now and the draft.

But even then, the opportunity to get both of CLE's 1st round picks to move back just 3 spots would make me stop and think.

The more options we have the better.
Is there a post of yours somewhere explaining what you like about him? I've respected your draft research in the past. Admittedly, I'm just getting started on the draft. I just can't get a grasp of the QBs thus far going by what I've seen.

Presently, I wouldn't even stop and think. I'd be all over that trade like white on rice
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I pray to the good Lord above that Lombardi's dumb enough to trade up for Manziel. They do have two 1st round picks that I would love to have. Although, two 1's might be a bit stiff for moving up 3 spots

Sounds dang good though
There is no way in hell we pass that up. In fact if it's true that Cleveland does want Manziel that bad we should start spreading the rumor about how impressed we are with Manziel right before the draft.
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I'm now more confident than ever that they will in fact go QB first round.
Didn't say they wouldn't grab one in the first round, but it wont be the first pick overall.
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No but I would be happy to bet with you at a draft party or something of that sort.
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Is there a post of yours somewhere explaining what you like about him? I've respected your draft research in the past. Admittedly, I'm just getting started on the draft. I just can't get a grasp of the QBs thus far going by what I've seen.

Presently, I wouldn't even stop and think. I'd be all over that trade like white on rice
I have Bridgewater ranked as the top QB in this class in accuracy, decision making, pocket presence, and pre snap reads. He is the most pro ready QB in this class. He has a mind for the game and all of the required physical tools.

His arm strength is not elite, but it's NFL quality. His size is not ideal, but I think that he will grow into his frame a little bit more. I don't like how skinny he is but it's not a deal breaker. He also tends to hold the ball a little bit low in the pocket, but I think it's a fixable issue.
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I wasn't hoping to get a QB with the first pick, until I saw this list....

QB's alive in the playoffs:
Luck, Rivers, Brady, P. Manning, Kaepernik, Newton, Brees, Wilson

Regarding any post season aspirations I may have that list is pretty telling.


What it tells me is that there are still two ways to get to the playoffs and win (at least one game):
1) dominant QB play: Rivers, Brady, Manning, Brees
2) defenses that are so good your QB is allowed to become, in effect, an outstanding game manager (Wilson) or make seriously garbage throws on a semi-regular occasion (Kaepernick and Newton).

*) I guess Luck defies my categorizations because he was certainly not a "dominant" player the other day but his supporting cast is among the worst in the NFL so there's no way he fits into the 2nd category.
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Here's a decent break down by rotoworld of the "top" QB's in this years draft.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...back-conundrum
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I have Bridgewater ranked as the top QB in this class in accuracy, decision making, pocket presence, and pre snap reads. He is the most pro ready QB in this class. He has a mind for the game and all of the required physical tools.

His arm strength is not elite, but it's NFL quality. His size is not ideal, but I think that he will grow into his frame a little bit more. I don't like how skinny he is but it's not a deal breaker. He also tends to hold the ball a little bit low in the pocket, but I think it's a fixable issue.
I would not change a single word.
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Here's a decent break down by rotoworld of the "top" QB's in this years draft.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...back-conundrum
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I pray to the good Lord above that Lombardi's dumb enough to trade up for Manziel. They do have two 1st round picks that I would love to have. Although, two 1's might be a bit stiff for moving up 3 spots

Sounds dang good though
The way I look at it, swapping firsts is no incentative so the only enticement is for more to be added. The second first is not enough imo. "what are you willing to give for me to trade down missing the three highest selected players?" Pressure is on Cleveland not to miss on the next "great quarterback".
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The silver lining here is that Lombardi seems stupid enough to fall into the same trap Washington just did.
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The silver lining here is that Lombardi seems stupid enough to fall into the same trap Washington just did.
Yes, he is. Although, he did pull the wool over the Colts eyes on Richardson. He might end up being a decent RB, but currently, the Colts took that one up the poop chute
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should the vikings pick up QB in the upcoming draft?
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I would say with the 8th pick. They might have to be aggressive and move up to get the guy they want. Maybe up to 2 with St. Louis. The problem at 8 is you're the fifth team that needs a QB. Right now, there are only 3 QBs that could figure into the top 8. There is a chance that Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles are all gone at No. 8. They'll have to maneuver to get the guy they want.
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Does the Munchak firing mean that the Titans will most likely take a QB with their first pick? They don't have an established QB right now and I think a new coach would probably like to bring in his own QB
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I think they would have taken a QB in the draft regardless. Jake Locker hasn't shown he can be a starting QB in the NFL. He didn't have a great final year at Washington coming into the draft. You're in a division with Andrew Luck. You need to secure a QB. You can't fool around when you're Tennessee and right now, they're lagging behind.
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Pass rusher. Edge pass rusher. They have to get after the QB better. Clowney would be perfect, but he'll probably be gone at 6. They're a team that needs OL help. They have to protect Matt Ryan better. Greg Robinson, Lewan. Jake Matthews will be gone.

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LOL at this nugget from Kiper about Locker, "..He didn't have a great final year at Washington coming into the draft..."

No kidding. It was a huge red flag that everybody saw, and yet all the ESPN draft gurus glossed over it as if it didn't mean anything. Now that the writing is on the wall he is going to use that as if it's something he agreed with at the time? Funny.
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