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Old 08-13-2014   #1641
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Whether it's the draft or acquiring a player from another team, you still have to assess value.

We knew that we needed a qb going into the draft. OB might like savage and think he might develop into a starter, but they still assigned a value to him.

You don't just give up whatever a team is asking for because you like a guy.
I agree. But the Pats weren't asking for pie in the sky, they were asking for a single 2nd rounder. We could have traded back into the second round with some of our later picks to give them a 2nd.

We didn't.

We didn't give them our second.

We didn't give them this years third & next years 2nd.

"Obviously" they assessed his value lower than that. Which means they do not think he is a franchise QB, or has the potential to be.
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By trading for him, with a late round pick, you get him at this years salary. If we resign him at the end of his current contract, we will be in no worse position than if we wait until after this season.

Who do you release? If we sign Mallett, Savage will leave at the end of his contract so we'd essentially be throwing that time, training and money down the drain.
fitz....he has no desire.
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He's got the tools, he responds to coaching. Nothing wrong with that.


Still, the main thing is that O'Brien & Godsey spent time with him, preparing him for the NFL. If they want him, I want him. If they don't want him, I don't want him. If they think he's worth a first round pick, I'm extremely excited. If they would rather wait till he's a free agent next year... I couldn't care less about him.
This is the exact argument I've been having for years on this board. My position is that Mallett does not have the tools. He has never and will never have the tools. He's a big man with a big arm. That is it. Size and arm strength are irrelevant to me as long as a minimum requirement is met. Beyond those two things his toolbox is empty.

And his response to coaching is a total guess. The only evidence we have is what we can see. Mallett has not looked even average a single time he has stepped on a NFL field. He is also coming into a contract year and the best coach in the NFL drafted his replacement already (with a pretty high pick) while actively trying to shop him.

If Mallett had looked amazing in the small amount of time we've seen him then I would understand all the hoopla. But he has never come close to that. All he has ever done is put up good college stats while playing in a QB friendly system that made people think Tyler Wilson was a NFL QB. The same Tyler Wilson who took Mallett's 10 win team and turned it into an 11 win team.

I agree with you that if O'Brien wanted him I would stand behind the decision and hope that I am wrong. But I still maintain that Mallett has never been anything more than a big man with a big arm. He is not a NFL starting QB.
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If Bill Belichick considered Ryan Mallett to be just just an adequate backup QB he wouldn't be looking to trade or cut him. If Bill Belichick wants to trade you Ryan Mallett then you want no part of that trade.
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If Mallett had looked amazing in the small amount of time we've seen him then I would understand all the hoopla.
Outside his connection with O'Brien, there is no hoopla. If we didn't have O'Brien, there would be no more talk about Ryan Mallet than there is about Ryan Nassib.

Well there's that Fitzgerald thing to. That's probably making any QB not named Schaub look pretty enticing right now.
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Belichick has stated (paraphrased) the main reasons why he decided to draft Brady is because not only did Tom win, Tom delivered wins when his team was down and needed him most. Belichick said it seemed like every time you put the tape on Brady was producing a 4th quarter win and/or game winning drive.
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Was it just me, or did Fitzpatrick look a bit like Steve Young Saturday? Little flashes here & there.
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Damn, dude, whatever you're smoking is better than mine.
I'm trying to get my game-face on. You know me, Mr.Positive when the season starts.
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Was it just me, or did Fitzpatrick look a bit like Steve Young Saturday? Little flashes here & there.
Yeah, maybe Steve Young when he was with the BUCS....
On second thought, Fitz never looked that good. I think Thorn has a point...
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yeah, maybe steve young when he was with the bucs....
On second thought, fitz never looked that good. I think thorn has a joint...
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I thought that was a given....LOL
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Was it just me, or did Fitzpatrick look a bit like Steve Young Saturday? Little flashes here & there.


That's twice today.
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Was it just me, or did Fitzpatrick look a bit like Steve Young Saturday? Little flashes here & there.
Yeah he did.

...if you mean THIS Steve Young



...that one time when he ran for that first down.

Yeah... a little.
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Yeah he did.

...if you mean THIS Steve Young



...that one time when he ran for that first down.

Yeah... a little.
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& we know how that guy turned out once he got with a competent coach.
TK, are you serious.
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& we know how that guy turned out once he got with a competent coach.
Steve Young wasn't 32 and at the end of his career.
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83 pages later and we still have no idea who is going to be the QB..

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TK, are you serious.
You guys are not helping with my delusions.



FYI, not that it is relevant here, but Steve Young was 31 when he took over as starter for the 49ers.
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