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Old 05-13-2014   #1381
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I think Case would be of interest. Enough for a 7th future pick? Maybe.
Yeah, it is likely to be late round pick if that. I like Case but the way Texans are heading, I don't think Case has a chance of playing in Houston and I want Case to go somewhere that he has a chance to play at least as a back up QB.
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If you think he's a franchise guy, two 2nds should not be "too much." If reports are correct, the Patriots were asking for a third...
"Reports" are 5th-7th round pick.
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"Reports" are 5th-7th round pick.
Yea same thing I've read. The "third day pick" language confused some thinking it was meant as third round.
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I expect Pickspatrick to start the season.

If we are winning he'll finish the season.

If we struggle things will get Savage around here.
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"Reports" are 5th-7th round pick.
It makes zero sense for the Patriots to trade away Mallett for a late round pick, unless they don't believe he can make their roster as the backup QB. They gain nothing other than a spot on the roster if they trade Mallett for a 5th round pic or later... Here's why:

* If Mallett becomes a free agent next year, he will surely be signed by a team before June 1st, 2015 for a significant amount of money which will result in a compensatory pick for the Patroits. For instance, a 4yr-$20 million contract will likely result in a 4th round compensatory pick for NE... If he gets something north of $6 million per year (certainly possible), they would receive a 3rd round pick... (New England always loses more free agents than they sign- ensuring compensatory picks).

I believe the Texans would have to trade (at minimum) a 5th round pick with a significant conditional upgrade if he performs- performs well for them.
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Give him some protection and some good wr's.

Has to have gotten better since then too.

I really think this is our guy.
That could well have been the Case Keenum video from last year. Nothing Mallett did there that Keenum didn't do last year. And, with protection, WRs who hold onto the ball, better coaching, a better defense, a running game, and improved kicking game ... Keenum may just be better than we all think.

We'll see soon enough.
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I think its fairly obvious that Fitzpatrick will at least start the beginning of the season. Depending on who wins the #2 role they may get some starts later in the season if we are eliminated from the playoff race.
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That could well have been the Case Keenum video from last year. Nothing Mallett did there that Keenum didn't do last year. And, with protection, WRs who hold onto the ball, better coaching, a better defense, a running game, and improved kicking game ... Keenum may just be better than we all think.

We'll see soon enough.
Agreed. If OB is the QB guru that he is portrayed to be, then we should see a very noticeable improvement in Keenum. Hell, the guy has 8 starts under his belt. The problem now is that fans are so fickle they don't want to give any QB a chance to improve. 8 games is nothing for a UDFA QB with minimal reps and a dying coaching staff.

If we would have drafted Bridgewater or Bortles and they had the same record, same stats as Keenum from last year through 8 games we would all be saying that they need at least 2 years to prove themselves.

I'm going to trust OB and assume that he can take these QB's on the roster and make them better. We lost a ton of games with Keenum last year by only 1 score. I think we might be in for a pleasant surprise.

One thing is for sure, IMO, us not taking a QB in round 1 or 2 tells me that OB isn't as concerned at the QB position as we are. Savage is a project. If he steps on the field this year then our season has gone completely wrong. The last thing we want to see this year is Savage starting. Let him sit and learn.

Here's to a successful season and a playoff birth .
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"Reports" are 5th-7th round pick.
Which is more to the point. If they were looking for a 5th-7th round pick & we thought Mallett was a potential franchise QB, the deal would be done. But since we're haggling in this range (if we're indeed in talks with the Patriots) I can't imagine the Texans believing he is a serious upgrade over Fitzpatrick.

Now... maybe Mallett's agent is balking on the one year extension. If he's wanting a 4 year contract similar to what we gave Schaub, but if they thought we could win with him, I can't imagine they couldn't work something out.

All I'm saying, is the longer this goes on, the less excited I'm getting about Ryan Mallet.
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Agreed. If OB is the QB guru that he is portrayed to be, then we should see a very noticeable improvement in Keenum. Hell, the guy has 8 starts under his belt. The problem now is that fans are so fickle they don't want to give any QB a chance to improve. 8 games is nothing for a UDFA QB with minimal reps and a dying coaching staff.
& Tj has 6, three of them being wins, one of those in the play offs. Do you feel that Tj should get "chance to improve" or have you seen enough?

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I'm going to trust OB and assume that he can take these QB's on the roster and make them better. We lost a ton of games with Keenum last year by only 1 score. I think we might be in for a pleasant surprise.
I agree. These QBs, if it's Case, great. It would make for a great story. But I don't care if it's Tj or Fitz, as long as we get back to winning.

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One thing is for sure, IMO, us not taking a QB in round 1 or 2 tells me that OB isn't as concerned at the QB position as we are. Savage is a project. If he steps on the field this year then our season has gone completely wrong. The last thing we want to see this year is Savage starting. Let him sit and learn.
I think it means he doesn't believe any of the QBs available in the draft were significant upgrades over what we have. Bridgewater/Keenum... bunch of stats in ConfUSA(AAC), big whoop. Bortles/Yates big for nothing.

But he also said there wasn't much separation between the top guys & the guys like Savage. So I don't think he believes there's much difference between Savage & Tj/Case. I wouldn't start him right away either, but he may be at the point where putting him on the field is the best thing for him. Only so much you can learn on the sideline.
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Savage is a project. If he steps on the field this year then our season has gone completely wrong. The last thing we want to see this year is Savage starting. Let him sit and learn.
If Savage doesn't win the starting job in camp, I'm worried that he might transfer to another team.
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He would have to sit out a year. :P
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So, switching from one "QB guru" to a new "QB guru" is going to make Keenum better? Pffft!

A couple dings on Keenum: 1. He lacks the measurements the now "QB guru" obviously wants. 2. Film. He regressed in epic fashion as games went by. He either couldn't read a defense or refused to due to looking for the big play.

I'd be surprised if he made it to camp
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Hey, I hear Vince Young is back on the market.
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He needs to sit out a year.
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& Tj has 6, three of them being wins, one of those in the play offs. Do you feel that Tj should get "chance to improve" or have you seen enough?
I definitely think TJ has a chance to improve under OB. I thought that Keenum was under contract for another year but they are both FA's in 2015.
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So, switching from one "QB guru" to a new "QB guru" is going to make Keenum better? Pffft!

A couple dings on Keenum: 1. He lacks the measurements the now "QB guru" obviously wants. 2. Film. He regressed in epic fashion as games went by. He either couldn't read a defense or refused to due to looking for the big play.

I'd be surprised if he made it to camp

What does Fitz have on Keenum in that category? 1" and maybe 15lbs? Not a big difference.
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I wonder if Dre would like Mallet if he was brought in...

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So, switching from one "QB guru" to a new "QB guru" is going to make Keenum better? Pffft!

A couple dings on Keenum: 1. He lacks the measurements the now "QB guru" obviously wants. 2. Film. He regressed in epic fashion as games went by. He either couldn't read a defense or refused to due to looking for the big play.

I'd be surprised if he made it to camp
Wouldn't you say the ENTIRE team regressed in epic fashion and he was basically a rookie QB caught in the middle? Don't you believe the coaching was bad, the kicking was bad, the OL was terrible, there wasn't a running game, and the defense was pourous? Who, except Texans fans, would expect a rookie QB to do well under such circumstances? Oh yes, Schaub and Yates both had the same circumstances and both of them were "bad" .... is there a recurring theme here?
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