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Old 04-23-2014   #1141
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So, I ask the question again, who is this franchise QB you think we can just "go get"?

I'm sorry if this came across as a little harsh, but I'm so sick & tired of hearing how Manziel walks on water or how all we have to do is go get a franchise QB.
Agreed. Are Franchise QBs on sale at Target this week? I must have missed that ad.

I kid of course, but to listen to the damn talking heads - very few of which had jobs that depended on them actually having to make a franchise pick and live with the repercussions - they're are at least three or four in every draft. Bulls#!t. Even the no-brainers like RGIII and Andrew Luck haven't reached Franchise status of a Peyton or a Drew Brees. Russell Wilson and Joe Flacco both have a Super Bowl rings and the verdict is very much still out on whether they are currently considered to be Franchise QBs.

Or maybe I'm too strict with my definition of a franchise QB. I think the player must match certain criteria to be considered a franchise quarterback: consistency, talent, leadership/maturity, and football intelligence. Are these attributes too much to expect?
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Even the no-brainers like RGIII and Andrew Luck haven't reached Franchise status of a Peyton or a Drew Brees.
I remember when Peyton came into the league. Even though his team wasn't immediately successful, you could tell there was something about him.

I felt the same about Phillip Rivers when he was allowed to play.


Everyone else, it took time before I thought they were "franchise" QBs. Drew Brees, I didn't think too much of it when San Diego let him go. I thought New Orleans might have hitched their wagon to the wrong cart really. & though Aaron Rodgers was impressive when he finally started, he did sit for 3 years.

Still, Peyton & Drew Brees status is way more than just "franchise" those guys are HOF caliber.

Andrew Luck is a "sure thing" because he has all the measurables, played in a pro system, made good decisions, made smart decisions, was prolific playing in a major conference (albeit not at a "major" football program)
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My point was - and is - you don't know what the hell you're gonna end up with until they get out on the field, in your system, playing against NFL defenses, at NFL speed. So this "just go get a franchise QB" attitude is misguided and fueled by the goofy-a$$ed talking heads. They throw that word around way too much for my tastes.

Let's look at 1st round QBs drafted starting with 2004 and see what the success rate looks like.... How many actual "franchise QBs" are in this group? Twenty-seven first rounders, I see maybe 6 - 7 franchise guys. How many do you guys see?
2004
Eli Manning (#1)
Phillip Rivers (#4)
Ben Roethlisberger (#11)
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Aaron Rodgers (#24)
Jason Campbell (#25)
2006
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Matt Leinart (#10)
Jay Cutler (#11)
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Brady Quinn (#22)
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Matt Ryan (#3)
Joe Flacco (#11)
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My point was - and is - you don't know what the hell you're gonna end up with until they get out on the field, in your system, playing against NFL defenses, at NFL speed. So this "just go get a franchise QB" attitude is misguided and fueled by the goofy-a$$ed talking heads. They throw that word around way too much for my tastes.
I was pretty much agreeing with you, just saying it takes time for most franchise QBs to actually look like a franchise QB.

I honestly had no idea Drew Brees was going to be as special as he was. I don't know if he would have, honestly, had he not found his kindred spirit in Sean Payton.
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I was pretty much agreeing with you, just saying it takes time for most franchise QBs to actually look like a franchise QB.

I honestly had no idea Drew Brees was going to be as special as he was. I don't know if he would have, honestly, had he not found his kindred spirit in Sean Payton.
Brees played well in San Diego but it was his shoulder surgery that expedited his exit if I'm remembering correctly. The Bolts were in position to take Rivers (The Charger coaching staff coached the Sr bowl that year) and Schotty's crew was in love with him so they took him and let go of the guy with the injury question mark.
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Brees played well in San Diego but it was his shoulder surgery that expedited his exit if I'm remembering correctly. The Bolts were in position to take Rivers (The Charger coaching staff coached the Sr bowl that year) and Schotty's crew was in love with him so they took him and let go of the guy with the injury question mark.
I remember.

Even without the shoulder, I don't know that he played so well that they would have kept him over Rivers. I mean, Matt Schaub played well at times, for entire seasons even, but he never fooled anyone into believing he was a franchise QB.

His first year in NewOrleans though.... no question about it. He was better than "just" good.
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I remember.

Even without the shoulder, I don't know that he played so well that they would have kept him over Rivers. I mean, Matt Schaub played well at times, for entire seasons even, but he never fooled anyone into believing he was a franchise QB.

His first year in NewOrleans though.... no question about it. He was better than "just" good.
He threw for around 7000 yards and 52 TD's his last two years at the Bolts...I know my football and I'm fairly positive they would have resigned him based on commentary and scuttlebutt. The shoulder problem and being at the end of his first contract just made them go to Rivers instead of gamble with a big contract going for possibly damaged goods.
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My point was - and is - you don't know what the hell you're gonna end up with until they get out on the field, in your system, playing against NFL defenses, at NFL speed. So this "just go get a franchise QB" attitude is misguided and fueled by the goofy-a$$ed talking heads. They throw that word around way too much for my tastes.

Let's look at 1st round QBs drafted starting with 2004 and see what the success rate looks like.... How many actual "franchise QBs" are in this group? Twenty-seven first rounders, I see maybe 6 - 7 franchise guys.
Giving a little room for doubt I would say 7.

To me this gets back to there only being 1-2 solid QBs per year with some years having none. All this talk of "very deep QB class" is bunk to me because it isn't going to be some epic 4-5 starters year particularly when there is "no separation" and "none are worthy of being taken high." Those assertions are like oil and water.
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He threw for around 7000 yards and 52 TD's his last two years at the Bolts...I know my football and I'm fairly positive they would have resigned him based on commentary and scuttlebutt. The shoulder problem and being at the end of his first contract just made them go to Rivers instead of gamble with a big contract going for possibly damaged goods.
Besides, they already had one big money QB (6 yrs, $40 Mil) on the roster in Rivers. So when Brees got hurt AND was at the end of his contract - they franchised him the previous year - that made letting him walk that much easier.

Had Brees not gotten hurt, it would have been interesting to see if they really would have re-signed Brees and, therefore, kept two high-dollar QBs on the roster.
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He threw for around 7000 yards and 52 TD's his last two years at the Bolts...I know my football and I'm fairly positive they would have resigned him based on commentary and scuttlebutt. The shoulder problem and being at the end of his first contract just made them go to Rivers instead of gamble with a big contract going for possibly damaged goods.
Yup. People are forgetting how serious the shoulder concerns were. To put it in perspective, Miami took Culpepper over Brees because of the injury concern and Culpepper himself was coming off a brutal knee injury from which he never recovered.

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Besides, they already had one big money QB (6 yrs, $40 Mil) on the roster in Rivers. So when Brees got hurt AND was at the end of his contract - they franchised him the previous year - that made letting him walk that much easier.

Had Brees not gotten hurt, it would have been interesting to see if they really would have re-signed Brees and, therefore, kept two high-dollar QBs on the roster.
Someone would have gotten traded and for serious compensation.
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Brees played well in San Diego but it was his shoulder surgery that expedited his exit if I'm remembering correctly. The Bolts were in position to take Rivers (The Charger coaching staff coached the Sr bowl that year) and Schotty's crew was in love with him so they took him and let go of the guy with the injury question mark.
The way I remember it, there were actually TWO pinch points.

Mike Riley drafted Brees in 2001 and he didn't play at all. Then he was the starter in 2002 and 2003 and he wasn't living up to expectations. He went 2-9 as a starter in 2003 and only threw for 2000ish yards. So then Schottenheimer drafted Rivers. But Brees came out in 2004 killing it-- two straight 3000+ yard seasons, 11-4 one year, but only 9-7 the next.

That's when he hurt his shoulder. Rivers had sat on the bench for two years at that point and was champing at the bit and Brees' shoulder injury made their decision a lot easier. If Brees' last two games with the Chargers had been better than 150-160 yards passing and if they had won those two games and made it into the playoffs instead of fading at the end and missing out, he might still have been a Charger.

But that shoulder injury gave them the perfect excuse to get rid of him. They weren't tied to him like they were to Rivers.
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My point was - and is - you don't know what the hell you're gonna end up with until they get out on the field, in your system, playing against NFL defenses, at NFL speed. So this "just go get a franchise QB" attitude is misguided and fueled by the goofy-a$$ed talking heads. They throw that word around way too much for my tastes.

Let's look at 1st round QBs drafted starting with 2004 and see what the success rate looks like.... How many actual "franchise QBs" are in this group? Twenty-seven first rounders, I see maybe 6 - 7 franchise guys. How many do you guys see?
2004
Eli Manning (#1)
Phillip Rivers (#4)
Ben Roethlisberger (#11)
J. P. Losman (#22)
2005
Alex Smith (#1)
Aaron Rodgers (#24)
Jason Campbell (#25)
2006
Vince Young (#3)
Matt Leinart (#10)
Jay Cutler (#11)
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JaMarcus Russell (#1)
Brady Quinn (#22)
2008
Matt Ryan (#3)
Joe Flacco (#11)
2009
Matthew Stafford (#1)
Mark Sanchez (#5)
Josh Freeman (#17)
2010
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Tim Tebow (#25)
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Franchise QB

Potential Franchise QB

I know some people will disagree with Stafford and Cutler, but they would be the unquestioned starter on any of the teams that didn't have one of the other guys in green. My definition of franchise QB may also be different from the consensus idea. I think a franchise QB is a guy who is good enough that you can build a consistent championship contending team around him.
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That was probably the "luckiest" fumble ever to ever happen. You may not remember, but on the play that he injured his shoulder, he fumbled.......tried to stretch out and reach for the lost ball........then, with his arm outstretched, about 3 or 4 of the D's players landed right on that shoulder, dislocating it ...........he went on to surgery.............then on to greatness.
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I know some people will disagree with Stafford and Cutler, but they would be the unquestioned starter on any of the teams that didn't have one of the other guys in green. My definition of franchise QB may also be different from the consensus idea. I think a franchise QB is a guy who is good enough that you can build a consistent championship contending team around him.
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I know some people will disagree with Stafford and Cutler, but they would be the unquestioned starter on any of the teams that didn't have one of the other guys in green. My definition of franchise QB may also be different from the consensus idea. I think a franchise QB is a guy who is good enough that you can build a consistent championship contending team around him.
No respect for Alex Smith .... All he's done is put up 10+win seasons the last three , even after changing teams.
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I still think Mallet will be available draft time for a "throw away" pick. Like a 6th or 7th
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No respect for Alex Smith .... All he's done is put up 10+win seasons the last three , even after changing teams.
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I agree. All he does is win.


If consistent, solid, "don't blow the damned game", play is your definition of "franchise" then the Alex Smith of the past 3-4 years fits that definition.
and I'm not playin'
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If consistent, solid, "don't blow the damned game", play is your definition of "franchise" then the Alex Smith of the past 3-4 years fits that definition.
and I'm not playin'
He was money in the play-offs 3 years ago. More than just a "don't screw it up game manager"
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