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Old 02-26-2014   #601
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You're not saying that you'd be fine if we didn't draft a QB in the first three rounds are you? ... Keenum & Yates can not be our only shot at a future starting QB for this team.
A bit inconsistent, aren't you? At post #582 you wrote:
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...The only reason to like the idea of a Mallet trade is that OB would have to sign off on it. If he does, then we're assuming he knows something that we don't....
So you're OK with OB signing off on Mallet but not OK with OB signing off on Keenum?

We're going to have several days (maximum 16) of stage 2 pre-season workout prior to the draft. So besides film study, OB will get a good look at what Keenum and Yates have, on the field. If OB is OK with Keenum, then I'm OK. I've been saying for some time that if OB likes what he sees in Keenum, or Yates, then this is the best case scenario for our filling our other needs in the draft.
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So you're OK with OB signing off on Mallet but not OK with OB signing off on Keenum?

We're going to have several days (maximum 16) of stage 2 pre-season workout prior to the draft. So besides film study, OB will get a good look at what Keenum and Yates have, on the field. If OB is OK with Keenum, then I'm OK. I've been saying for some time that if OB likes what he sees in Keenum, or Yates, then this is the best case scenario for our filling our other needs in the draft.
I'm not ok with Mallet & no Keenum. I'm not ok with Keenum alone. I want a new prospect + our current prospect..... either Keenum or Yates.

Not Keenum & Yates.

If we get Cassell/Vick, I want 3rd rounder + Keenum/Yates
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I'm not ok with Mallet & no Keenum. I'm not ok with Keenum alone. I want a new prospect + our current prospect..... either Keenum or Yates.

Not Keenum & Yates.

If we get Cassell/Vick, I want 3rd rounder + Keenum/Yates
Depending on who's there in the 3rd I could get on board with this. Murray
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A Chronicle piece.


For all the draft talk about QBs, Keenum still in Texans' mix
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I haven't forgotten about Case.

I think he and Yates should be a part of the competition with a vet they bring in for the back up spot behind Bridgewater.
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O'Brien watching Pitt QB Tom Savage
Jesus, Schaub clone with a little better arm strength. Lots of upside though...
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Jesus, Schaub clone with a little better arm strength. Lots of upside though...
When there's a clean pocket, he can be dangerous. But when there's any pressure or he has to move around, his mechanics go awol and he consistently makes bad decisions.
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When there's a clean pocket, he can be dangerous. But when there's any pressure or he has to move around, his mechanics go awol and he consistently makes bad decisions.
Yup, I think we're saying the same thing.
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Taking advantage of an NFL rule which allows former players to either throw or catch passes at a Pro Day should the team need it, former Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett shed his New England Patriots uniform for a day and threw to a collection of Razorbacks attempting to join him in the NFL.

Mallett, a 6-foot-7, 225 pound gunslinger with a first-round arm, is entering the final year of his rookie contract with the Patriots and is a source of frequent trade speculation. He certainly had an audience during Wednesday's Pro Day. According to the Razorbacks' official athletics website, representatives of all 32 teams attended the workout.
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Mallett's performance was described as simply "OK" from a source who attended the workout. Mallett's time in the NFL has not translated into a better build. He remains gangly and looked "weak physically." Despite his less-than-ideal build, Mallett remains a talented thrower. His most impressive passes on the day, according to the source, were deep outs and go routes -- two of the more valued throws in today's NFL.
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I've tweeted it like five times. RT @Ethanhamm I'll be honest. I thought the Mallett/second offer was turned down thing was common knowledge

What's kinda crazy is that HOU wouldn't need a QB if E.J. Manuel would have slipped to #27. Sounded like CIN loved him at #21, too.

If the Mallett traded did happen, St. Louis is going to be pissed. Who's trying to trade to #2 if Clowney isn't there?

His contract will be getting worked out after the trade terms are agreed upon, but before it's sent to the league. How these things work.

There's implied trade and signings. RT @Jimswim11 @JuMosq last year of mallets contract so I don't think any team will go with a 2nd

Denver offered Tebow and a 2nd for him at one point. RT @NFLDraft2K14 @JuMosq Do you know how long ago they turned down 2nd rounders?

I think 33 would get it done. RT @scott_thrill @JuMosq how much do you think Bill could command in a trade with HOU?

It's going to take that. I wonder what he'd get if he hit FA.

So, yeah. Those are my thought on Mallett. People think it's crazy to trade high picks for someone who's throw 4 passes since '11. But...

Awesome. RT @Ethanhamm I can confirm @JuMosq's statement about the Patriots turning down a Mallett for 2nd trade.

It'll be interesting. I think Mallett takes at least a second to move. Look at the second round QBs in this class, do you think he's better?

Remember, some people thought he was the most talented QB in the class, just his off-field got in the way. Now that's "gone". So what now?

People like to ask what he's done since he left Arkansas...the fact that he's been able to keep himself out of trouble is huge.

Then there's the rumors about supposed trades in the past. From two sources, I have heard they have turned down a second for him, twice.

Scout I know was very close the Penn State program. Said Bill O'Brien absolutely loved Mallett.
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after this: Report: A Team Is Pushing Hard To Acquire Mallett

which may be just an extension of the Twitter chatter posted above or originating it as the owner/editor of the website posting the rumors are in Boston/New England.
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O'Brien has got three QBs with real game experience on the roster and he have yet to evaluate them in his system.

Mallett has completed one, count 'em ONE, pass in a real NFL game.

If I were O'Brien, I'd see what I had in Yates (now there's a name rarely uttered now days) and Keenum and maybe even Schaub before I start offering up first day picks to N.E.

I could stomach drafting a Bridgewater at 1-1 before I'd give up a 2nd rounder for Mallett.

Again, that's just me.
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I'd go FA before trading for a QB. Kellen Clemens, 31, is available, with a career QB rating of 68.6, but last year had a rating of 78.8.

But the one I'd target is Tyler, Texas native, Matt Flynn, 29, who has a career QB rating of 88.3 (85.7 last year). I'd try to sign him to a 2 year contract (max 3 years).

I'd then draft a QB in the last half of the draft, and bring Keenum and Tate into training camp.

After this season, OB would know if he'd need to target a QB next season. No QB prospect this year carries a rating in the top 5. Drafting one at 1-1 is a reach.
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I could stomach drafting a Bridgewater at 1-1 before I'd give up a 2nd rounder for Mallett.
But I doubt that you know anything about O'brien's opinion of TB, I know I certainly don't, but what's safe to say is that he knows much, much more about Mallet since he coached him for an entire season and if he views Mallet as a talented QB who fits his system, why wouldn't he prefer the choice with much less uncertainty especially with a far lower price tag ? Wouldn't you in that situation ?
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Rick Smith is going toe to toe with Satan. Hopefully he understands walking away would count as a win if we don't want to give up 33, which I don't want to do.

I like the idea of Mallet, but I'd be just as happy with Gimpy Mettenberger with 33 & no "married to the QB" contract.


I'd much rather have Robinson, Yankey, & Mallet..... but I can live with Zach(or McCarron) with that second.
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Though I'll still be happy if we have to give up the 33rd for Mallet. I really expect no less from Rick, he's out of his element here.

I'll just be happy with the direction we're going at the QB position (away from 2013's direction).
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Though I'll still be happy if we have to give up the 33rd for Mallet. I really expect no less from Rick, he's out of his element here.

I'll just be happy with the direction we're going at the QB position (away from 2013's direction).
How about we not define the most likely result as a failure and Smith getting outmaneuvered by a demi-god? A 2nd has always been the most likely outcome for any team trading for Mallett. Anything less should be deemed a major coup.
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How about we not define the most likely result as a failure and Smith getting outmaneuvered by a demi-god? A 2nd has always been the most likely outcome for any team trading for Mallett. Anything less should be deemed a major coup.
Where's the fun in that?

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I'm changing my position on Mallet. I wouldn't give up #33 but I'd give up #65.

What changed my mind was the John Harris interview in the other thread, when he said, ..."The biggest thing as it pertains to a QB is the time it’ll take to pick up the new offensive system. Bill O’Brien absolutely without question does not want to wait for a QB to “get” his system...".

Mallet has no game experience, but he knows the system.
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So the question for me becomes, can the Texans hold out until the draft day 2?

Some teams are very likely to approach the Texans after Day 1 to trade up into the 2-1 slot and grab their guy. Texans could get a later 2nd rounder to use for Mallett plus add maybe a 3rd round pick. Just throwing it against the wall, see what sticks.

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