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Old 01-01-2014   #61
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Great, Glad to know we've got another head coach that likes
to put his buddies on the gravy train with him.

Wonder if he has a guy in mind for GM?
EVERY HC leans heavily on buddies or folks recommended by buddies.
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Apparently he's bringing his assistant HC/WR coach Stan Hixon with him.

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefoo...stan_hixo.html
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Apparently he's bringing his assistant HC/WR coach Stan Hixon with him.

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefoo...stan_hixo.html
Hixon has 8 years experience coaching WRs in the NFL, in addition to 25 years coaching in college. He has the resume.
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Fans here are so ready to complain it's like they lose all common sense.

Didn't the Texans conduct multi-hour interviews?
Don't you think one of the questions was something like "Who would you see filling out your staff?"

And don't you think the interview wouldn't have gone very well if he had responded by telling McNair he intended to create PSU south in Houston?

I don't think Smith and McNair are going to build his staff for him, but I highly doubt any HC would be given such a good NFL job if he didn't intend to use the lure of an NFL gig to get some really talented people here.
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EVERY HC leans heavily on buddies or folks recommended by buddies.
also known as basic human behavior and the difference between a successful HC or being another example of the Peter Principle.
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also known as basic human behavior and the difference between a successful HC or being another example of the Peter Principle.
Care to expound? Show me a recent HC hire that succeeded that hired noone he knew
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Care to expound? Show me a recent HC hire that succeeded that hired noone he knew
It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.
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It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.
It would be nice to find the next Belichick, you know where to find him?

It's pretty much a stretch to compare just about anyone with Belichick.

And last I heard, he's got a job.
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It would be nice to find the next Belichick, you know where to find him?
Try Jimbo Fisher
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Try Jimbo Fisher
And if Jimbo Fisher brought his buddies along with him, would you cry "David Shaw"?
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Try Jimbo Fisher
Does he have any desire to coach in the pros?

Last I looked there were a handful of coaching gigs open in the NFL and Jimbo just signed a big fat contract extension.
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It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.
You need someone who knows and understands your system to teach your system. It doesn't mean they aren't the best and brightest minds. You can't have an eclectic bunch of coaches contradicting each other and coaching our players differently.
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Bill O'Brien trains with Belichick but is derided as 'not the next Belihick' before his hiring is even announced.

Meanwhile Jimbo Fisher is?

And all because of one statement?
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Does he have any desire to coach in the pros?
I don't know, you asked me to find you the next Belichick, I obliged. My guess is YES, most all coaches aspire to the highest level. I think Jimbo would be more like Jimmy Johnson than Steve Spurrier.

Lou Holtz told me that he knew in his first week as head coach of the New York Jets that he didn't enjoy it. It was not fun and college was much more rewarding for him. Lou also told me that the reason he was successful is because he knew how to win more football games than his fellow college head coaches.
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I don't know, you asked me to find you the next Belichick, I obliged. My guess is YES, most all coaches aspire to the highest level. I think Jimbo would be more like Jimmy Johnson than Steve Spurrier.

Lou Holtz told me that he knew in his first week as head coach of the New York Jets that he didn't enjoy it. It was not fun and college was much more rewarding for him. Lou also told me that the reason he was successful is because he knew how to win more football games than his fellow college head coaches.
Yeah, but you can't be the next Belichick by staying in College.
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Yeah, but you can't be the next Belichick by staying in College.
Yep, some smart owner has to offer you the job and someone will.
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Yep, some smart owner has to offer you the job and someone will.
If he's good, some owner or 3 did contact him.
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Let's get real, guys: NFL coaching is just like any other job; you usually get in based off of who you know. The hope here is that BO'B actually fires under-performing assistant coaches instead of being loyal to a fault and hurting the team's progress as a result.
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Let's get real, guys: NFL coaching is just like any other job; you usually get in based off of who you know. The hope here is that BO'B actually fires under-performing assistant coaches instead of being loyal to a fault and hurting the team's progress as a result.
I am being real, some head coaches search out the best and brightest for their staff and other head coaches reward their friends and their recommendations. NFL coaching is not like any other job, there are only 32 NFL Head Coaches. If NFL coaching is like any other job so is commanding an USN aircraft carrier.

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I am being real, some head coaches search out the best and brightest for their staff and other head coaches reward their friends and their recommendations. NFL coaching is not like any other job, there are only 32 NFL Head Coaches. If NFL coaching is like any other job so commanding an USN aircraft carrier.
I'm just saying coaches usually hire coaches they know. Kubiak wasn't alone.
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