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Old 01-20-2014   #601
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It comes down to this. These are entertainers, not role models. Football is an intense, violent sport in which players put everything they have in to it. It is what it is. Deal with it.
With all the absentee fathers, they are role models whether you think they should be or not. Deal with it.
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I also didn't have enough cash to replace the transmission in my caddilac. But then I took away it's 24"chrome caps, speakers, and the gold-glitter dice from the mirror and sold it all. Now I have a running car and can drive to work and make more money.
You are fortunate to have had the frivolous add ons and even more fortunate you could get anything for them. To bad football teams don't have that luxury.
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~You don't understand. There's always cash and cap space unless you're complaining about the GM. Then it's all HIS fault. Get with the program...~


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I also didn't have enough cash to replace the transmission in my caddilac. But then I took away it's 24"chrome caps, speakers, and the gold-glitter dice from the mirror and sold it all. Now I have a running car and can drive to work and make more money.
I know what you mean, shoot I would not mind one bit if our Texans would get in cap hell or whatever it took to get Manning if it meant he would have taken us to our first Superbowl.
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it's just ridiculous that probably the best quarterback of all time is still getting better at 37 years old. an ancient noodle armed statue with neck problems, in his second year on a new team ... destroyed the single season passing records and blasted the patriots in the championship game. love him or hate him, i dont think there ever has been or will be another player that can single handedly carry a franchise like peyton. sure the playoffs are different and require the defense to actually show up, but making the dance every year and on now his 3rd superbowl appearance is pretty dang impressive.

honestly i didnt give him much consideration as a free agent because i thought he was done. the neck injury appeared crippling, especially with the secrecy surrounding his ability to throw. forget about being a quarterback, i was worried he'd have trouble bending over to sign autographs. had he been healthy i have no doubt we would've cut anyone or everyone to get manning onto the team.
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it's just ridiculous that probably the best quarterback of all time is still getting better at 37 years old. an ancient noodle armed statue with neck problems, in his second year on a new team ... destroyed the single season passing records and blasted the patriots in the championship game. love him or hate him, i dont think there ever has been or will be another player that can single handedly carry a franchise like peyton. sure the playoffs are different and require the defense to actually show up, but making the dance every year and on now his 3rd superbowl appearance is pretty dang impressive.

honestly i didnt give him much consideration as a free agent because i thought he was done. the neck injury appeared crippling, especially with the secrecy surrounding his ability to throw. forget about being a quarterback, i was worried he'd have trouble bending over to sign autographs. had he been healthy i have no doubt we would've cut anyone or everyone to get manning onto the team.
I'm with you. I didn't think Manning or Luck would survive one, much less two NFL seasons without at least some significant time in rehab.

But honestly, I'm surprised when any player makes two consecutive seasons without going on IR now.
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His name is Richard Sherman, let's just call him Dick Sherman.
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I like San Fran even less than Seattle, but everyone knows that the refs gave the Seahawks a giant gift when they failed to call a roughing/personal-foul on the guy who hit the SF punter. Actually that was probably the ball game right there.
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90 mil. We didnt have that kind of cash
It's not 90 million, it's the first year's caphit, which was 18m. That offseason we extended Foster, Myers and Schaub. Cutting Schaub is a no-brainer in that instance and would have saved about 10 million (June 1st cut rule), and keeping Foster on his Exclusive Free Agent deal would have saved about 7.25m. We could have easily made a reasonable offer to Manning, but from what I heard Kubiak had absolutely no intention of looking at Peyton.
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It's not 90 million, it's the first year's caphit, which was 18m. That offseason we extended Foster, Myers and Schaub. Cutting Schaub is a no-brainer in that instance and would have saved about 10 million (June 1st cut rule), and keeping Foster on his Exclusive Free Agent deal would have saved about 7.25m. We could have easily made a reasonable offer to Manning, but from what I heard Kubiak had absolutely no intention of looking at Peyton.
Oh wow, well looks like his ego cost him his job. He probably wanted all the credit. Look at Fox on the sidelines as Manning tears defenses apart, he could give zero f's about who gets credit lol.
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His name is Richard Sherman, let's just call him Dick Sherman.
So Sherman's a Dick. Makes sense.
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I'm old school. Let your play do your talking. Keep your mouth shut.

Let the wannabes on message boards (like me) run their mouths.
Old school or new school depends on the program you were in.

My football "career" was only high school and middle school, but I was taught in a "gamesmanship" style. Borderline cheating and playing dirty. That could include smack talk or cheapshots.

To me that is old school, since a lot of football is coming as close to cheating as you possibly can without getting caught.
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And Kaepernick look extremely limited as a QB in the game. Great athlete, but his pocket presence was non-existent.
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honestly i didnt give him much consideration as a free agent because i thought he was done. the neck injury appeared crippling, especially with the secrecy surrounding his ability to throw. forget about being a quarterback, i was worried he'd have trouble bending over to sign autographs. had he been healthy i have no doubt we would've cut anyone or everyone to get manning onto the team.
Bingo. I was concerned about the wisdom of his continuing to play at all and was worried the Texans would would be hamstrung for years if the gigantic gamble didn't pay off.

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Oh wow, well looks like his ego cost him his job. He probably wanted all the credit. Look at Fox on the sidelines as Manning tears defenses apart, he could give zero f's about who gets credit lol.
Or just like Scooter says there was a gigantic medical issue. Ignoring that is just looking to badmouth someone.

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It's not 90 million, it's the first year's caphit, which was 18m. That offseason we extended Foster, Myers and Schaub. Cutting Schaub is a no-brainer in that instance and would have saved about 10 million (June 1st cut rule), and keeping Foster on his Exclusive Free Agent deal would have saved about 7.25m. We could have easily made a reasonable offer to Manning, but from what I heard Kubiak had absolutely no intention of looking at Peyton.
Just because something can be made to fit the cap for a year doesn't mean it is long term viable for the team. You are also failing to give any consideration to what if the gamble fails.
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Old school or new school depends on the program you were in.

My football "career" was only high school and middle school, but I was taught in a "gamesmanship" style. Borderline cheating and playing dirty. That could include smack talk or cheapshots.

To me that is old school, since a lot of football is coming as close to cheating as you possibly can without getting caught.
That's not old school. That's reform school.
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I didn't have a problem with his post game interview. I did have a problem with Sherman going up to Crabtree slapping his behind and...
And doing the choker sign at him. Classless.

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And as for Sherman crying about Crabtree talking smack to him...
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I had no problem whatsoever with Sherman putting Crabs on blast like that b/c I'm pretty sure Crabs was talking all kinds of smack during the game too...Crabs should've just taken his L like a man.

As a WR, you gotta know who he is as a player. He talks smack all game long and you can't feed into that stuff...He's a superior version of Cortland Finnegan. You just got to shut up & let him talk to himself all game.
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Aw hell, the "class" police are back. Lol.
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My 2 cents.

a) I like trash talking. Think it can be funny. But I also think there are two sides to it. You can be a Deion, a Steve Smith or some of these other guys and come across as funny/crazy. Or you can be a Richard Sherman type that comes across as just a lunatic with some serious issues.

b) My issue isn't with some of the talk as much as the action. Sherman chased Crabtree down after the play. Punk move.

c) I was laughing on Twitter last night because defenders of Sherman said he was this 4.0 student and went to Stanford. Wow, I didn't know that people at Stanford were immune from being classless bleeps. There are a-holes at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc, etc. Good schools known for academics don't change your personal skill sets.
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c) I was laughing on Twitter last night because defenders of Sherman said he was this 4.0 student and went to Stanford. Wow, I didn't know that people at Stanford were immune from being classless bleeps. There are a-holes at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc, etc. Good schools known for academics don't change your personal skill sets.
Having a high GPA at Stanford isn't the same thing as at other schools. For decades they allowed people to drop classes after the final exam. They moved it back a couple weeks but it is still incredibly generous. So basically you have to work hard to have a bad grade appear on your Stanford transcript.

I am not slagging the education at Stanford. It is excellent. But their grading is not the norm.
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I'm old school. Let your play do your talking. Keep your mouth shut.

Let the wannabes on message boards (like me) run their mouths.
old school players talked trash too.

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