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Old 01-02-2014   #161
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Dude is the next Aaron Curry, I want no part of Clowney at all.
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Default Re: Clowney, then what?

Clowney wants to put off surgery for Combine

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South Carolina junior DE Jadeveon Clowney insists he does not need surgery to repair bone spurs in his foot.

"Itís not bothering me," Clowney told reporters. "The footís fine. Right now I am just going to go with the flow." Maybe the defensive end is certain he does not need surgery, but apparent hobbling and slowed movements show otherwise. Clowney also added he wants to participate in the Combine. "I just want to come in there and hit the Combine and do stuff nobody has ever done, run a fast 40. Just show out." Jan 2 - 1:55 PM
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The main reason Clowney's numbers dipped in 2014 is he was almost always double teamed on every passing down. Clowney is the best player in the 2014 NFL Draft.
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The main reason Clowney's numbers dipped in 2014 is he was almost always double teamed on every passing down. Clowney is the best player in the 2014 NFL Draft.
Most talented. Not even close to being the best player. You are stuck in ESPN's past of "hype that became fail."
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Most talented. Not even close to being the best player. You are stuck in ESPN's past of "hype that became fail."
I have watched over a dozen Clowney games the last 3 years and I watch very little ESPN w/ exception of their actual sporting events. I stand by post regardless of where you think I'm stuck.
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I have watched over a dozen Clowney games the last 3 years and I watch very little ESPN w/ exception of their actual sporting events. I stand by post regardless of where you think I'm stuck.
You don't stand alone. Obviously it's hard to tell how this kid will mature, but there is no question in my mind that Clowney at his best is worthy of 1.1 However as a 3-4, I'm not sure I see that fit. If Clowney was to be the Texans pick, I'm anticipating a switch back to 4-3. So, to the OP's question Clowney, then what question, I would want a DT(Hageman?) with the next pick.

Then....an OT is a must!
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So, to the OP's question Clowney, then what question, I would want a DT(Hageman?) with the next pick.

Then....an OT is a must!
Really? When I started the thread, I figured the main reason against Clowney was that we needed a QB. So the Question was really "if we take Clowney, how do we address the QB position?"

You've used our three top picks & no QB.

Surely you plan to address the QB position in some way. McCown? Hoyer? Mallet? Keenum?
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Really? When I started the thread, I figured the main reason against Clowney was that we needed a QB. So the Question was really "if we take Clowney, how do we address the QB position?"

You've used our three top picks & no QB.

Surely you plan to address the QB position in some way. McCown? Hoyer? Mallet? Keenum?
I'm not afraid to go with Keenum. But i think we can still get a decent QB in the fourth since there are only 6 teams, including us, looking for a Starting QB.
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Default Re: Clowney, then what?

Going into the season w Keenum or Schaub as QB1 would terrify the hell out of me. I don't want a repeat of Gary/Carr situation w O'Brien. If QB isn't the #1 pick it sure as hell needs to be our next pick or some trade needs to happen.
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You don't stand alone. Obviously it's hard to tell how this kid will mature, but there is no question in my mind that Clowney at his best is worthy of 1.1 However as a 3-4, I'm not sure I see that fit. If Clowney was to be the Texans pick, I'm anticipating a switch back to 4-3. So, to the OP's question Clowney, then what question, I would want a DT(Hageman?) with the next pick.

Then....an OT is a must!
Hageman? Hageman? Did you say Hageman? I watched his bowl game, he looks like an OT, he plays like an OT and he's a DT.
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Really? When I started the thread, I figured the main reason against Clowney was that we needed a QB. So the Question was really "if we take Clowney, how do we address the QB position?"

You've used our three top picks & no QB.

Surely you plan to address the QB position in some way. McCown? Hoyer? Mallet? Keenum?
I personally feel that we address the QB problem through the O-Line. I don't know what to expect out of Williams or Queesenberry return to improve things. Depending on how one would answer that, I'd be willing to change my opinion on drafting another with a 3rd.

Bottom line, I don't think our QB's are as bad as we think.
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Who needs a QB?? We have Schaub, Yates and Keenum! We don't need to fill that position. More pass rushers and tackles and we are basically in the super bowl! Book your ticket today.
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Clowney is a freak.

If I had Rex Ryan as a DC and Mark "Butt Fumble" Sanchez as my QB I'd still take Clowney. But you've got to have a guy who can build a fire inside the kid on your staff.

The last "freaks" were Von Miller, then Calvin Johnson for me. Doesn't happen often.
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Clowney is a freak.

If I had Rex Ryan as a DC and Mark "Butt Fumble" Sanchez as my QB I'd still take Clowney. But you've got to have a guy who can build a fire inside the kid on your staff.

The last "freaks" were Von Miller, then Calvin Johnson for me. Doesn't happen often.
But even rex ryan couldn't do anything with vernon gholston....you either have it or u dont.
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Can Clowney drop into pass coverage? Seems small for a 4-3 DE. I'm really intrigued to compare his combine numbers to Marios.
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The main reason Clowney's numbers dipped in 2014 is he was almost always double teamed on every passing down. Clowney is the best player in the 2014 NFL Draft.
That's a lie. I can pull game film when he was singled up and did nothing. It wasn't even a slide protection. Whenhe was doubled,he quit.
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Can Clowney drop into pass coverage? Seems small for a 4-3 DE. I'm really intrigued to compare his combine numbers to Marios.
6'6 270 lbs is good size for a 4-3 DE. Especially with his athleticism.
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That's a lie. I can pull game film when he was singled up and did nothing. It wasn't even a slide protection. Whenhe was doubled,he quit.
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Give me Aaron Donald in the first round if we are going to build the DL... I don't care if Todd McShay, Kiper, and company all have him as a 2nd rounder. That guys plays football!

I do not understand the Clowney hype. When was the last time a physical freak who showed inconsistent effort, focus, results was taken high in the 1st round and was not at least a mild disappointment?..

Perhaps he will slide due to concerns and then someone will get a steal. Fine. I would argue that the slide may be the trigger to motivate and focus him. Picking him #1 only reinforces that his approach was fully with merit.
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