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Old 02-19-2014   #1181
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Ellis Johnson noticed it right away. Two jobs ago, Auburn defensive coordinator Johnson was South Carolina defensive coordinator Johnson. And in the spring of 2008, Johnson visited the practice field at South Pointe High in Rock Hill, S.C., and saw a defensive end who projected off the charts.

“Even as a ninth-grader at spring practice, he just kind of jumped out at you,” Johnson said in February 2011. “I didn’t know how big he would get. He was really a long, rangy kid at that time, but he’s got a huge frame. Those kind of players, those guys who are that good, they stand out even at that age.”

The recruitniks noticed Jadeveon Clowney soon after. As early as anyone could be assigned stars, Clowney was assigned five of them. He was anointed the No. 1 recruit in the class of 2011, and despite the fact that the class contained future stars such as offensive tackle Cyrus Kouandjio, receiver Sammy Watkins and defensive end Stephon Tuitt, no one really argued this point.

The hype grew as National Signing Day 2011 approached. When a site called AthleteVault.com uploaded a video of Clowney’s senior season highlights in December 2010, it was passed around via e-mail and social media by everyone who loves college football. The first four plays were all anyone needed to see...
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Watching this Spurrier/Clowneyvideo, the term "Ragdoll Maker" comes to mind.
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TD: " how's his work ethic?"

Spurrier " Ehh, it was ok....."

physical freak or not, that has to be a concern for everyone...his own coach won't even cover up for him even a little..
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TD: " how's his work ethic?"

Spurrier " Ehh, it was ok....."

physical freak or not, that has to be a concern for everyone...his own coach won't even cover up for him even a little..
Don't forget he had to slow him down in practice. I think Spurrier answered the way he did because he didn't like the question. I can see how someone would get tired of it.

I'm not on the "Clowney wagon" don't really think he should be our pick. But the work ethic thing is getting to much yap. You don't get to be 6'5" 275lbs with 6% body fat (eyeball test only) with a poor work ethic. Trust me, I know.
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I cannot believe that you are on board with this. If you are scared to get hurt then don't step between the lines. Period. Everybody knows the dangers and if you aren't okay with it then you shouldn't be playing. Clowney put himself above his teammates. He would have been better off sitting on the bench than half assing it on the field. There's no positive way to spin that.

Lattimore was graded by most as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick before his injury and he only fell to the 4th round. He was picked in the 4th despite SF knowing full well that he would be sitting out his entire rookie year

That was after he tore a left knee ligament and some cartilage in 2011, and then the very next year tore the ACL, MCL, and PCL in his right knee.

Lattimore didn't fall just because of the second injury. McGahee suffered the same injury his final year at Miami and was still a 1st round pick. Lattimore fell because of the combination of having ligament injuries to both knees in a span of less than 12 months.
Back when I played, the coached let everyone know that playing half speed was more dangerous than playing full speed because your opponent would play, even if you didn't. Was this a lie?
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Back when I played, the coached let everyone know that playing half speed was more dangerous than playing full speed because your opponent would play, even if you didn't. Was this a lie?
Totally true. If your not playing hard your head isn't in the game, if your head isn't in the game you aren't aware of whats going on and can get yourself hurt.
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Don't forget he had to slow him down in practice. I think Spurrier answered the way he did because he didn't like the question. I can see how someone would get tired of it.

I'm not on the "Clowney wagon" don't really think he should be our pick. But the work ethic thing is getting to much yap. You don't get to be 6'5" 275lbs with 6% body fat (eyeball test only) with a poor work ethic. Trust me, I know.
For the record, i too think it's getting a little too much run...but it's still a legitmate concern. I mean you can't have a guy out there half assing it for any reason, let alone someone expected to make the impact that Clowney is expected to make.
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Someone remind me what Fat Albert is doing right now? Oh, that's right laughing his way around the world with his millions taking no risk at all in football.
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For the record, i too think it's getting a little too much run...but it's still a legitmate concern...
IMO, Spurrier was a little too honest with that. Rare to see a head coach give the media an opportunity to say he "threw his player under the bus." That's why it's news, but I don't think anyone in the league is shocked by the facts.
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IMO, Spurrier was a little too honest with that. Rare to see a head coach give the media an opportunity to say he "threw his player under the bus." That's why it's news, but I don't think anyone in the league is shocked by the facts.
Maybe Spurrier didn't like the way Clowney was and doesn't care if the bus is coming his way.
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How well does clowney compare to willie mcginist? He WONT be a 3-4 de for crennel.
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Totally true. If your not playing hard your head isn't in the game, if your head isn't in the game you aren't aware of whats going on and can get yourself hurt.
...and when you get hurt you end up on the couch watching TV. When you end up on the couch watching TV and it's cable the whole thing starts again.

Just get DirecTV and you won't get hurt in the first place...
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...and when you get hurt you end up on the couch watching TV. When you end up on the couch watching TV and it's cable the whole thing starts again.

Just get DirecTV and you won't get hurt in the first place...
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IMO, Spurrier was a little too honest with that. Rare to see a head coach give the media an opportunity to say he "threw his player under the bus." That's why it's news, but I don't think anyone in the league is shocked by the facts.
We need more of these college coaches to be honest about a player's tendencies...that's what's wrong with many of these incoming rookies now...
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Don't forget he had to slow him down in practice. I think Spurrier answered the way he did because he didn't like the question. I can see how someone would get tired of it.

I'm not on the "Clowney wagon" don't really think he should be our pick. But the work ethic thing is getting to much yap. You don't get to be 6'5" 275lbs with 6% body fat (eyeball test only) with a poor work ethic. Trust me, I know.
You can love to workout,doesn't mean you have a good work ethic for your profession. You ever heard look like tarzan,play like jane? Andre Bruce looked like the next LT with his shirt off.
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We need more of these college coaches to be honest about a player's tendencies...that's what's wrong with many of these incoming rookies now...
I'd love to hear an HONEST Sumlin assessment.
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You can love to workout,doesn't mean you have a good work ethic for your profession. You ever heard look like tarzan,play like jane? Andre Bruce looked like the next LT with his shirt off.
And the poster boy for this...
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You can love to workout,doesn't mean you have a good work ethic for your profession. You ever heard look like tarzan,play like jane? Andre Bruce looked like the next LT with his shirt off.
Look like Tarzan, plays like Jane has nothing to do with work ethic. It's about being soft. No one is accusing Clowney of being soft.
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We need more of these college coaches to be honest about a player's tendencies...that's what's wrong with many of these incoming rookies now...
Good for those in pro ball/us, but if I'm recruiting against the guy I play that tape to my 5-star recruits and tell them I'll be on their side when they're up for the NFL draft.

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Look like Tarzan, plays like Jane has nothing to do with work ethic. It's about being soft. No one is accusing Clowney of being soft.
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