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Old 01-14-2014   #441
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This means

A. Your mind is made up, Teddy Bear Love

B. You've never seen Mettenberger play.


Have you gotten to see Brett Smith? Tell me how different he is from Teddy?
One good year. ONE. One hit wonders happen all the time. If we get him in the 3rd, obviously I'll root like hell if he's a Texan. The confidence some of you have about Mett is out there. The LSU OL is almost unfair. Men amongst boys. It won't be the same in the NFL. He is slow. Really slow.

Unless this guy turns out to be the next Brady in delivery speed/ball placement, i have my reservations about a slow, post-ACL QB.
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The LSU OL is almost unfair. Men amongst boys.
So you haven't watched him, got it.

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It won't be the same in the NFL. He is slow. Really slow.
You heard it here: pocket-passers have no place in the NFL.

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Unless this guy turns out to be the next Brady in delivery speed/ball placement, i have my reservations about a slow, post-ACL QB.
He wasn't exactly mobile beforehand, so don't trump up the injury like it would significantly change his style of play.
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So you haven't watched him, got it.



You heard it here: pocket-passers have no place in the NFL.



He wasn't exactly mobile beforehand, so don't trump up the injury like it would significantly change his style of play.
I have seen him play. He's made some good throws and improved. Then the ACL took him out. It is what it is. I think I have a pretty good reason to want the top "rated" or "hyped" (which ever you prefer) QB instead of a guy who played good football for one year and then got an ACL. He reminds of the recent Arkansas QBs that had decent years. Tall in the pocket and strong arms can only do so much. Sorry if I'm not vibrant if that's our answer to QB after all the crap I've seen as a Texan fan.
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I have seen him play. He's made some good throws and improved. Then the ACL took him out. It is what it is. I think I have a pretty good reason to want the top "rated" or "hyped" (which ever you prefer) QB instead of a guy who played good football for one year and then got an ACL. He reminds of the recent Arkansas QBs that had decent years. Tall in the pocket and strong arms can only do so much. Sorry if I'm not vibrant if that's our answer to QB after all the crap I've seen as a Texan fan.
I called out your post for attributing his success to his offensive line, which tells me you haven't watched all his games.
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I called out your post for attributing his success to his offensive line, which tells me you haven't watched all his games.
Yep, sure haven't seen every play of Mett's only worthy season. It sure doesn't hurt to have a good one and be surrounded with a borderline NFL talented team. He's a tall, immobile QB who had one good year then tore his ACL. Sorry, doesn't excite me. I get the whole "great value for a later picked QB," but I'm tired of that route. I'm a "Keep it simple, Stupid" guy this year because we'll most likely won't be in this position for a QB for a while. We'll see what happens.
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Yep, sure haven't seen every play of Mett's only worthy season. It sure doesn't hurt to have a good one and be surrounded with a borderline NFL talented team. He's a tall, immobile QB who had one good year then tore his ACL. Sorry, doesn't excite me. I get the whole "great value for a later picked QB," but I'm tired of that route. I'm a "Keep it simple, Stupid" guy this year because we'll most likely won't be in this position for a QB for a while. We'll see what happens.
What I'm saying is that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and thus should refrain from doing so. Downplaying Mettenberger for having one good year and then throwing his success at the feet of his team (and especially the Oline, whose play can be best characterized as bipolar this past season) is evidence of ineptitude regarding this discussion.

Please buzz off.
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What I'm saying is that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and thus should refrain from doing so. Downplaying Mettenberger for having one good year and then throwing his success at the feet of his team (and especially the Oline, whose play can be best characterized as bipolar this past season) is evidence of ineptitude regarding this discussion.

Please buzz off.
Hahaha, what?! You're acting like I denounced your religion. You must be a pleasure to be around. Watch out for this tough guy.
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Hahaha, what?! You're acting like I denounced your religion. You must be a pleasure to be around. Watch out for this tough guy.
If you continue to pass off half-assed analysis as something competent, I'll continue to call it out as such.
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Interesting quotes from McNair.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...neywatt-tandem

2014 NFL Draft: Texans' Bob McNair envisions Clowney-Watt tandem


But McNair is also a proud alumnus of the University of South Carolina, and thusly he paid pretty close attention to junior defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, the No. 2 overall prospect eligible for the May draft according to NFLDraftScout.com.


"He's one of these players who's a once-in-every-10 years kind of physical specimen that comes along," McNair said, before comparing Clowney to the team's last No. 1 pick in 2006. "Mario Williams was that way. I think Clowney is actually a better athlete than Mario."


" McNair said. "He's not a J.J. Watt. J.J. didn't have that natural ability. He worked. He developed his. I said, 'J.J., I don't know what will happen, but if we get Clowney, we want you to instill in him the same kind of work habits that you have.' He said, 'If he's in the same room with me, then he'll have them."
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"McNair said. "He's not a J.J. Watt. J.J. didn't have that natural ability. He worked. He developed his. I said, 'J.J., I don't know what will happen, but if we get Clowney, we want you to instill in him the same kind of work habits that you have.' He said, 'If he's in the same room with me, then he'll have them."
Before anyone says this is McNair calling out Clowney as lazy, etc., he's actually saying that he thinks Clowney has more natural talent than Watt, though Watt got to where he is by compensating with supreme work ethic, which McNair wants taught to Clowney in the event that he is drafted.
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Before anyone says this is McNair calling out Clowney as lazy, etc., he's actually saying that he thinks Clowney has more natural talent than Watt, though Watt got to where he is by compensating with supreme work ethic, which McNair wants taught to Clowney in the event that he is drafted.
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If you continue to pass off half-assed analysis as something competent, I'll continue to call it out as such.
i actually agree with his view on mettenberger.
dont want another schaub-like QB ever again.


i hope i didnt give you an aneurysm..
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i actually agree with his view on mettenberger.
dont want another schaub-like QB ever again.


i hope i didnt give you an aneurysm..
Schaub has a peewee league arm compared to Mettenberger. Mettenberger had a very successful yr under a former NFL OC. How many yrs has TB/Bortles/JM played under a former NFL OC or in an NFL offense? Did you know that Mettenberger is a very intelligent guy.

I'm not advocating that the Texans take Mettenberger but he's hardly a scrub.
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feeble attempt to confuse other teams but really only fooling the masses. look they could trade down one pick @ a time for all I care just long as they draft one of the "big three QB's"
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i actually agree with his view on mettenberger.
dont want another schaub-like QB ever again.
Feel free to list the ways they are similar, then.

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Schaub has a peewee league arm compared to Mettenberger. Mettenberger had a very successful yr under a former NFL OC. How many yrs has TB/Bortles/JM played under a former NFL OC or in an NFL offense? Did you know that Mettenberger is a very intelligent guy.

I'm not advocating that the Texans take Mettenberger but he's hardly a scrub.
After watching some Mettenberger games (Mississippi St/Texas A&M) this evening I have to admit I see what you like in him. He's definitely got the strongest arm I have seen in this draft.
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What's with the Mettenberger love? He looks exactly like Schaub to me.


Don't disrespect schaub like that. Schaub played in college,zach has been avg at best. Take out furman,uab,and kent state and the guy threw 13 tds. He threw 9 tds vs those 3 schools. Oh,did I mention he has 2 wrs that will go in the 1st 40 picks? What about the 3 pick fiesta vs ole miss. I don't know how mettenberger gained so much traction. 64% in college with 2 top 40 nfl wrs? Gimme a break!
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