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Old 11-07-2014   #1
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Default Texans: The "Marathon" is a Mirage!

During this slow bye week, I keep thinking about how many Texans coaches and players over the years have used the saying “No reason to be concerned so soon...........The season is a marathon.....not a sprint” when things are going somewhat less than ideal........i.e., losing games.

Well you may be able to apply that to MLB baseball with its 162 games and to NBA basketball with its 82 games...............but not to NFL football with its 16 games.

The NFL football season is NOT a marathon. It’s a sprint all the way..........with hurdles..........lots of hurdles, and the Texans have usually already tripped too many times by the time the end is in sight........and only then do they finally realize that it was a sprint all along after all.

As opposed to what I have witnessed over so many years as a Texans fan, the concept of “urgency” should be instilled to be felt by the players and coaches from day one, not after most of the season has been muddled through with a sense of “Oh well......there’s always tomorrow.” Here in Houston, it would certainly be nice for once not to find ourselves at the end of the season saying “Oh well..........there’s always next season.”

Thank you for allowing me to vent.
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during this slow bye week, i keep thinking about how many texans coaches and players over the years have used the saying “no reason to be concerned so soon...........the season is a marathon.....not a sprint” when things are going somewhat less than ideal........i.e., losing games.

Well you may be able to apply that to mlb baseball with its 162 games and to nba basketball with its 82 games...............but not to nfl football with its 16 games.

The nfl football season is not a marathon. It’s a sprint all the way..........with hurdles..........lots of hurdles, and the texans have usually already tripped too many times by the time the end is in sight........and only then do they finally realize that it was a sprint all along after all.

As opposed to what i have witnessed over so many years as a texans fan, the concept of “urgency” should be instilled to be felt by the players and coaches from day one, not after most of the season has been muddled through with a sense of “oh well......there’s always tomorrow.” here in houston, it would certainly be nice for once not to find ourselves at the end of the season saying “oh well..........there’s always next season.”

thank you for allowing me to vent.

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Default Re: Texans: The "Marathon" is a Mirage!

I think that is for fan consumption like "any given Sunday" or whatever. I imagine the urgency is imprinted by coaches..even if it does not always show on field. I still want to see basic blocking, tackling and no offensive players jumping off sides.
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I think it's a marathon from the respect that it takes year round work, but during the regular season each game is a sprint all it's own
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Arm tackles and being out of position just doesn't cut it in the NFL anymore. We need to add killer instinct to the sense of urgency. If we get a lead, we just pi** it off.
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Hell yeah!

I want my team to just kick the shit out of their opponents. I can't stand the get a lead, and then sit on it. Keep scoring and shove it down their fkin throats!
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What is this "get a lead" thing?
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What is this "get a lead" thing?
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Well you may be able to apply that to MLB baseball with its 162 games and to NBA basketball with its 82 games...............but not to NFL football with its 16 games.

The NFL football season is NOT a marathon. It’s a sprint all the way..........with hurdles..........lots of hurdles, and the Texans have usually already tripped too many times by the time the end is in sight........and only then do they finally realize that it was a sprint all along after all.
I get what you're saying, but the difference here is that this is a very physical sport. The idea of going to an 18 game season... extending the current season by 2 games, is a huge consideration.

If, for instance, Gronkowski gets hurt again, New England's promising season could turn dismal pretty quick...

The final stretch starts in December. Hopefully we haven't fallen too far behind.
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During this slow bye week, I keep thinking about how many Texans coaches and players over the years have used the saying “No reason to be concerned so soon...........The season is a marathon.....not a sprint” when things are going somewhat less than ideal........i.e., losing games.

Well you may be able to apply that to MLB baseball with its 162 games and to NBA basketball with its 82 games...............but not to NFL football with its 16 games.

The NFL football season is NOT a marathon. It’s a sprint all the way..........with hurdles..........lots of hurdles, and the Texans have usually already tripped too many times by the time the end is in sight........and only then do they finally realize that it was a sprint all along after all.

As opposed to what I have witnessed over so many years as a Texans fan, the concept of “urgency” should be instilled to be felt by the players and coaches from day one, not after most of the season has been muddled through with a sense of “Oh well......there’s always tomorrow.” Here in Houston, it would certainly be nice for once not to find ourselves at the end of the season saying “Oh well..........there’s always next season.”

Thank you for allowing me to vent.
This is interesting since you warn us of the dangers of putting INJURED players back before they have recovered fully. There must be a tension between urgency and caution and I lean to the caution side, at least until elimination games.
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Now let's try to get the team to understand that each game is a sprint as well. It would be nice to get away from all these slow starts.
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It's not a marathon. I don't watch marathons. It's football. Skinny ****ers from Ethiopia can't play football. I watch football, eat food that is bad for you, and enjoy a cold beverage. Beats the hell out of training for a marathon ...
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The team doctors seem to have a sense of urgency.
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It would be nice to have an elite QB, receiver(s)*, TE(s), RB(s)*, o-line, defense*, ST play, and elite coaching. Also nice - ownership that is not just in it for the money.

It would be nice to beat the elite teams at nite on prime time, instead of finding a way to always muck it up when the stage gets big- when it's time to prove you are for real.

Inevitably something will be missing or out of balance.

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Default Re: Texans: The "Marathon" is a Mirage!

Over and over, you see times where teams start off strong and then falter and either miss the playoffs or back into them.

And other times, teams don't play well early and then sneak into the playoffs and do well.

Whether you consider it a sprint or a marathon, the analogy works the same: it doesn't matter how you start or finish, it just matters where you are at the end.

At 4-5, we're not out of this. We could get hot, run the table, and finish 11-5 and get into the playoffs. It has happened before and it will happen again. OR we could go cold and finish 4-12. It's happened before and it will happen again.

So, yeah, I get the frustration. Everyone wants to be the team that dominates every game and is the front-runner from beginning to end. I'd love that. But this is a marathon because there's still a lot of football to play.
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This is interesting since you warn us of the dangers of putting INJURED players back before they have recovered fully. There must be a tension between urgency and caution and I lean to the caution side, at least until elimination games.
I was speaking in terms of apparent minimizing the importance of their poor play, poor decision-making and recurrent mistakes game to game in search for a better outcome in the "marathon".........NOT in terms of injuries. But since you bring this up, the Texans in terms of handling injuries can also then be categorized as falling into the game-to-game very short-sighted "poor decision-making" category for a better outcome in the "marathon."

All aspects of "urgency" must be focused on obtaining the best outcome in the "marathon." Playing injured players seldom leads to this end.
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I was speaking in terms of apparent minimizing the importance of their poor play, poor decision-making and recurrent mistakes game to game in search for a better outcome in the "marathon".........NOT in terms of injuries. But since you bring this up, the Texans in terms of handling injuries can also then be categorized as falling into the game-to-game very short-sighted "poor decision-making" category for a better outcome in the "marathon."

All aspects of "urgency" must be focused on obtaining the best outcome in the "marathon." Playing injured players seldom leads to this end.
OK. That makes more sense to me. I was off track just a little. I guess I was just finishing a long list of (Clowney is a wimp) posts and immediately thought of injuries.
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This is interesting since you warn us of the dangers of putting INJURED players back before they have recovered fully. There must be a tension between urgency and caution and I lean to the caution side, at least until elimination games.
I don't think that venting was about whether or when to play guys who are injured. I think it was about the length of time it took O'Brien to see what we've been seeing (and some of us felt when he was signed) for weeks: That Fitz won't get it done.
Correct me if I'm mis-reading you Doc.
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Perhaps a better analogy is that an NFL coaching regime (in our case, the Bill O'Brien regime), is like a war with a series of battles, each battle being roughly equivalent to a single season. If the initial battles are lost very decisively, it might make for a very brief war (and a very brief tenure for the HCs regime). If there's some early victories, then the war may go on for quite some time. And ultimately the only way to win the war is to win a SB.
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I don't think that venting was about whether or when to play guys who are injured. I think it was about the length of time it took O'Brien to see what we've been seeing (and some of us felt when he was signed) for weeks: That Fitz won't get it done.
Correct me if I'm mis-reading you Doc.
That was certainly one "biggie."
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