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Old 07-28-2014   #1501
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'cept, you know, Belichick, Coughlin, and Payton....6 rings between them.

As far as Belichick's coaching tree...seems like the law of averages would eventually kick in and he'd have one head coach from it find success. It might as well be O'Brien!
The ones off Belichicks tree all failed at their first job. O Brien had success at Penn State so he has already broken the cycle.
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The ones off Belichicks tree all failed at their first job. O Brien had success at Penn State so he has already broken the cycle.
Belichick failed at his first HC job with the Browns. Probably a big part in Cleveland ditching Cleveland and moving to Baltimore. Once he figured it out though, man did he go on a tear!!

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Belichick failed at his first HC job with the Browns. Probably a big part in Cleveland ditching Cleveland and moving to Baltimore. Once he figured it out though, man did he go on a tear!!

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So BOB has already one upped his mentor.

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so bob has already one upped his mentor.

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Belichick failed at his first HC job with the Browns. Probably a big part in Cleveland ditching Cleveland and moving to Baltimore. Once he figured it out though, man did he go on a tear!!

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Actually, Belichick & Co. were starting to win in Cleveland; they finished 11-5 in'94. Then, in the middle of '95, Modell announced that he was moving the franchise to Baltimore and that sunk player morale the rest of that year - I think they won one more game (after starting 4-4). If Modell hadn't moved the Browns, I'm thinking Belichick and Co. would have brought a championship to Cleveland.
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Actually, Belichick & Co. were starting to win in Cleveland; they finished 11-5 in'94. Then, in the middle of '95, Modell announced that he was moving the franchise to Baltimore and that sunk player morale the rest of that year - I think they won one more game (after starting 4-4). If Modell hadn't moved the Browns, I'm thinking Belichick and Co. would have brought a championship to Cleveland.
You give 1 winning season out of 5 a lot more credit than it probably deserves. There was a lot of mediocrity going on in Cleveland.
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'cept, you know, Belichick, Coughlin, and Payton....6 rings between them.

As far as Belichick's coaching tree...seems like the law of averages would eventually kick in and he'd have one head coach from it find success. It might as well be O'Brien!
Maybe I'm missing something here, but Payton outside of the SB year has basically won two Wildcard games in seven seasons. And Coughlin, outside of his two SB trips in his decade as the Giants coach, has never won a playoff game and outright missed the playoffs half the time.

5 SB appearances, 8 conference championship appearances and 12 playoffs in 14 years. These other two don't come close. They were just lucky to catch lightning in a bottle.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but Payton outside of the SB year has basically won two Wildcard games in seven seasons. And Coughlin, outside of his two SB trips in his decade as the Giants coach, has never won a playoff game and outright missed the playoffs half the time.

5 SB appearances, 8 conference championship appearances and 12 playoffs in 14 years. These other two don't come close. They were just lucky to catch lightning in a bottle.
That can be said of most of the Super Bowl winners the last 15 years. Only one back to back championship and only one 3 out of 4 years. It's been the Pats or some team that got lucky at the right time with the Giants being the luckiest I've ever seen.
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You give 1 winning season out of 5 a lot more credit than it probably deserves. There was a lot of mediocrity going on in Cleveland.
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You may be right about a championship, but it's kinda like how many licks it takes to get to the toosie roll center of a tootsie pop. The world may never know.

Bill's turn around came when he bought a video camera to film his grandson's little league game . Bill learned he could steal the third base coaches signs and the rest is history .
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That can be said of most of the Super Bowl winners the last 15 years. Only one back to back championship and only one 3 out of 4 years. It's been the Pats or some team that got lucky at the right time with the Giants being the luckiest I've ever seen.
Coughlin and Manning miss the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years, but because the one time the do make it they ride a hot streak to a SB win...
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Coughlin and Manning miss the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years, but because the one time the do make it they ride a hot streak to a SB win...
That would be 2 times they rode a hot streak to the , highlighted by 2 of the unlikliest plays ever seen.
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That would be 2 times they rode a hot streak to the , highlighted by 2 of the unlikliest plays ever seen.
If we follow the pattern of SB/suck/suck, then the Giants should go 7-9, somehow get into the playoffs, and win it all. Against the Texans of course.
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I'm really excited about an OB lead football team.

I just hope that it all comes to fruition.
OB is changing the culture for even the smallest fans.

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his little a$$ would be in intensive care if he had done that around my grandmother.

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I really like the way he is running training camp. Scrimmages with teams and seems if they do well. Using preseason games as they should. Live fire game film on "bubble players" . Mixing up the lineup depth chart.on game day. Maybe it is something I never really paid attention too before. It just seemed that we went through the motions before. Play starters "x" amount of plays and sit them (example ...was surprise when Brown got the sitdown for the falcon games)

Time will tell if it will translate to wins but I do like his approach
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All signs of intelligence and awareness, I feel like. Same with seeing guys like Harris fall down the depth chart.

The most exciting thing I've enjoyed about O'Brien as the HC thus far is his application of common sense.
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