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Old 12-03-2013   #1
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Two security guards working Sunday's Patriots-Texans game at Reliant Stadium say they were fired after taking a picture with quarterback Tom Brady following New England's 34-31 victory.

“When you are at your post and you're doing your job, you're not supposed to take pictures with anybody because your job is to secure that area,” Joel Williams told KHOU.com on Monday.

“I said, ‘Hey Tom Brady, good job, good game man.' He looked at me and smiled,” Williams said. “He was very polite, very nice guy, humble. Sometimes I see players and say hello, and they just keep walking.”

Brady and Williams took a photo together and that's when things took a turn for the worst.

“Immediately after I took the picture, I got ran down by a supervisor,” Williams said. “They didn't' really give a reason, they said you know you're wrong and you're fired."
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Wow, I don't see the big deal, but obviously security guard supervisor does.
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They were employees of Contemporary Services Corporation, not the Texans.

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“It is strictly against CSC policy for its employees to request photos or autographs from players,” CSC told KHOU 11 in a statement. “CSC stands by its decision to terminate the two employees who violated this policy.”
They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
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They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
Does the policy apply when you're off-the-clock? That'll be a big question either at their unemployment hearing, or for McNair to consider. (If he calls CSC, they'd capitulate)
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They knew the policy, rolled the dice, and will now probably sue CSC. Good luck to them.
I understand that, but dude claims he was off duty.

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Default Re: Texans security guards fired for taking photo with Tom Brady

Did they post the pics online? Why? If so, then that was dumb.
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Maybe the supervisors thought they were trading spy photos!
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I understand that, but dude claims he was off duty.
Title says "Texans", just clarifying.

How did they get access to Brady? If they were in a secured area they used their position to get star-shots. If they ran into Tom on the streets, no biggie. I'm sure some smart lawyer will take a third of their action.
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Does the policy apply when you're off-the-clock? That'll be a big question either at their unemployment hearing, or for McNair to consider. (If he calls CSC, they'd capitulate)
My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
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Title says "Texans", just clarifying.

How did they get access to Brady? If they were in a secured area they used their position to get star-shots. If they ran into Tom on the streets, no biggie. I'm sure some smart lawyer will take a third of their action.
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My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
ahhh, both good points. I don't have a dog in this hunt, so hope his picture with Brady was worth it.
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Was Schaub working the camera?
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You are held accountable as long as you aren't a player, coach, or gm.
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Did they post the pics online? Why? If so, then that was dumb.
According to the article, they were fired on the spot. The pictures became public after the fact.



Guy in the picture said his shift was over.

Who knows...
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Guy in the picture said his shift was over...
Forgot to take his name tag off?
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Forgot to take his name tag off?
I wear my lanyard at lunch and in the car. Doesn't mean I'm at work or on shift.
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My employee handbook says that if I am still in uniform, even when off duty, I am representing.
True, but that's historically been non-enforceable when there is no foreseeable harm in the employee action.

Good guidelines from a law firm at the Link

I'm fully with CSC (and their policies) during the paid shift hours. I'm also cognizant of the fact that due to their positions, these officers had access unavailable to the general public. That said, it's not their fault that they don't sign out from their shift in an unsecured area.
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Another sad story in the 2013 season .
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True, but that's historically been non-enforceable when there is no foreseeable harm in the employee action.

Good guidelines from a law firm at the Link

I'm fully with CSC (and their policies) during the paid shift hours. I'm also cognizant of the fact that due to their positions, these officers had access unavailable to the general public. That said, it's not their fault that they don't sign out from their shift in an unsecured area.
True, but i worked for the astros in their retail store for a little bit & we got the same speech. If players came into the store, no taking pics or asking for autographs & crap like that....mostly it was about bothering the players & or causing a scene with other fans...but it was also for authentication purposes and things of that nature.
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another disgusting act by this texan front office.

I bet you anything if the texans won this game and they did the same thing, they would not have been fired. They were made a scapegoat just like the 3 guys who were smoking in the bathroom.

Total overreaction by the front office instituting once again, draconian zero tolerance policies.

Taking out your frustrations for your sorry season on security guards after taking it out on young players is a sad and pathetic act by this team.
Did you read anything in this thread at all before you posted? This wasn't anything to do with the Texans FO other than they had input in what company they hired.
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