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Old 12-06-2013   #141
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1A. David Shaw 1B. Jimbo Fisher 3. Darrell Bevell

FWIW part of the reason ( and a big part) why Saban left Miami is because of limited control he had on selecting and drafting players he wanted.
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I'd be fine with Lovie too, but he can't pick his OC, you have to have somebody who can do that for him.
How can you hire the leader of the team, and not allow him to pick his own assistants? And who is this "somebody" that would know a good OC if they saw one?

BTW, not a fan of Lovie Smith. Not the leader I'm looking for. Too Kubiak-esqe. Tired already of McClain pumping him up by saying "Lovie's a native Texan". Who cares? I don't care if the next coach comes from Lower Slobovia. I just want a winner.
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Isn't Lovie a 4-3 guy? I'd want to go with someone that wouldn't overhaul the defense.
I believe he ran a 4-3/3-4 hybrid defense and will most certainly understand how to move key players around and utilize them to the fullest.
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How can you hire the leader of the team, and not allow him to pick his own assistants? And who is this "somebody" that would know a good OC if they saw one?

BTW, not a fan of Lovie Smith. Not the leader I'm looking for. Too Kubiak-esqe. Tired already of McClain pumping him up by saying "Lovie's a native Texan". Who cares? I don't care if the next coach comes from Lower Slobovia. I just want a winner.
I agree but I wanted to throw something out. I've been saying all day what you just did because most people I know here in Chicago have told me they loved Lovie..,nice guy, players love him... Basically a better coach than Kubes. Same mold and demeanor. So got them to a SB but issues with hiring OC and being conservative. BUT one of my closest coworkers who lives and breathes Bears wrote me an email that said "Lovie can be a pretty tough guy behind the scenes,main failing with Lovie was not having a grasp of offense." So not a lot different but was adamant in follow ups that tougher behind closed doors. Though that was a Kubes rumor too. I still think there is better out there. I think OBrien...nfl experience and college HC would be better
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After watching the press conference again, I was struck by McNair's criteria for the next HC.

I think he substantially limits the field by requiring both NFL and head coaching experience. Also says a lot about Rick Smith's role in the organization which looks like glorified "yes man.".

Almost guarantees he's going with Lovie IMO.
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What's Holmgren doing these days?
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After watching the press conference again, I was struck by McNair's criteria for the next HC.

I think he substantially limits the field by requiring both NFL and head coaching experience. Also says a lot about Rick Smith's role in the organization which looks like glorified "yes man.".

Almost guarantees he's going with Lovie IMO.
I had the impression that he would very much prefer those qualities, but he's a smart enough owner to not limit himself. I was more concerned with his statements about this not being a long rebuilding period; I'd hate to see him go from hand-offs with the team to the second coming of Jerry.
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I had the impression that he would very much prefer those qualities, but he's a smart enough owner to not limit himself. I was more concerned with his statements about this not being a long rebuilding period; I'd hate to see him go from hand-offs with the team to the second coming of Jerry.
I feel the same way, but (and of course I don't know the man personally, so I'm just spitballing) I feel like he is a different personality type from Jerry. If he does go Jerry, though.... we're in for a long ride.
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Just wondering if he's now had his first HC gig blow up in his face and learned from it.

Belichick was considered an asshat by many after his time in Cleveland. Next go around he was to say the least "improved".
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McNair should throw a ****load if money at nick saban.
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McNair should throw a ****load if money at nick saban.
Hasn't he already failed miserably as a HC in the NFL?
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Hasn't he already failed miserably as a HC in the NFL?
Failed miserably? I don't think so.

Left ungracefully? Sure.


I'd love to have saban though. To me he is a head coach. Not a glorified coordinator. He's a head coach.
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Saban would coach for a year or so and then jettison to coach Bowling Green to a national championship.
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No retreads (like Lovie Smith, Tom "Skinhead" Cable, M. Shanahan, The Walrus, etc.) Although Gruden or Cowher would be entertaining as hell.

Go young and smart. Someone the players will listen to and maybe even learn from.

Screw Saban. Monumental egos need not apply.
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..Belichick was considered an asshat by many after his time in Cleveland...
He still is.

But he's become a helluva coach.
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I got worried for a moment and started to think I might be completely wrong, until I read the http://bleacherreport.com on the link and have decided to not only NOT click this link, but dismiss this argument altogether.
So because it was Bleacher report you just chunked it without evaluating or offering a thought out rebuttal with your opinion?
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...It'll probably be Lovie...
What exactly makes him more attractive than other prospects?

And so what if he's from Texas? Who cares?

That's just the kind of provincial, local-yokel thinking that needs to be discarded.

Strange that McNair would get caught up in whether this guy or that guy is from Texas, considering he's from Florida.
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Interesting name tossed around on steelernation.com, of all places:

Louisville HC Charlie Strong.

Maybe a Strong-Bridgewater package.

Not bad.
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I doubt someone like Horton would see what Watt is capable and think that he should rush the passer less. Frankly, nothing guarantees that wouldn't happen with another coach, and I'd rather a guy with a proven track record like Horton.

EDIT: Also, Bleacher Report, dude.
i try to read all info including that of posters...like you. more info better. If I disagree, I discard.
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