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Old 12-06-2013   #81
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If Lovie Smith is the guy then Philips has to go (fine by me) those guys would not agree on defensive philosophy.

I'll throw some chum in the water. Art Briles. Offensive whiz, good ol boy network keeps growing strong, you can keep Philips and the climax?

Trade down to about 7-8 and draft Johnny Football. Dun dun duuuuuun!!
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Would be my first choice to fill the void.
Bill Cowher
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Lovie Smith



These would be my second choice.
Jon Gruden
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I'm intrigued by Holmgren but is there any evidence to suggest he is itching or even willing to come back as a coach?
Don't believe so. There is however a WCO, QB guy, HC out there who has - Steve Mariucci.
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I'm not going to pretend I know who'll be a good coach for us, but I sure hope we'd give Zimmer a looksee despite what McNair said. We need to grow some balls as a team, hold players and staff accountable. I can see Zimmer doing that. He's aggressive and knows what the heck he wants to do when he wants to do it.

I like Shaw too. He's practically the opposite of what Zimmer seems to be. Honestly, I'm not sure why I like him. Maybe because he seems like he just knows what's up (if you know what I mean)

I want to do away with using the ZBS as our base offense. I'd like to see power running. Keep DB, Brooks and find some ruthless fatties via draft or FA

Those are my top 2. As if it even matters, but for discussion sake...
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If Lovie Smith is the guy then Philips has to go (fine by me) those guys would not agree on defensive philosophy.

I'll throw some chum in the water. Art Brilbeabeatt Offensive whiz, good ol boy network keeps growing strong, you can keep Philips and the climax?

Trade down to about 7-8 and draft Johnny Football. Dun dun duuuuuun!!
You and norg have the worst ideas in the world. Just stop making suggestions.

Get Ray Horton and bring in a great up and comer as offensive coordinator. This defense needs help and wade is washed up. Horton has been consistent this entire decade so he knows hOw to beat passing teams.
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Don't believe so. There is however a WCO, QB guy, HC out there who has - Steve Mariucci.
I like the guys analysis on NFLN. Interesting thought, but for some reason I can't see him here. It doesn't really matter because whoever they hire some of us will love it and some will be predicting doom and gloom. LOL
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I wouldn't mind Whisenhunt. I think that guy gets a bit of a bad rap.

I also wouldn't mind Zimmer. I just want the team to play hard, smart, but not dirty. Penalties and turnovers kill teams.

I mean, there are a lot of guys I don't mind, a lot of guys I don't want, and a lot of guys I simply would have to see play out before developing an opinion (mostly the college guys).

If Lovie can get over some of the things that plagued him in his time with the Bears, he's probably the best guy to take the job.
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David Shaw is the top of my list, but all indications are that he's happy at Stanford and considers it his lifelong "dream job".
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You and norg have the worst ideas in the world. Just stop making suggestions.

Get Ray Horton and bring in a great up and comer as offensive coordinator. This defense needs help and wade is washed up. Horton has been consistent this entire decade so he knows hOw to beat passing teams.
Well said.

Ray Horton is awesome. He's my only pick. And hopefully we can find an awesome OC, GM, and ST guy that he lets do their thing (they all gotta go).

I don't know about yall, but I've been tired of these slow speaking, stammering, emotionless B's running this organization sideways for 8 years. Ray Horton will NOT be that guy. He will get wild and get the most out of his guys while avoiding becoming a Greg Schiano.

Ray Horton comes from the best defensive mindsets and everywhere he goes a top 5 defense follows. Coincidence? No. Added benefit he works in a 3-4.
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You and norg have the worst ideas in the world. Just stop making suggestions.

Get Ray Horton and bring in a great up and comer as offensive coordinator. This defense needs help and wade is washed up. Horton has been consistent this entire decade so he knows hOw to beat passing teams.
You have the worst sense of humor, why don't you relax and have fun with life and stop being such a hard ass, if you even had a glimmer of comprehension you would have noticed the joke.

Yea Horton, brilliant!
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David Shaw is the top of my list, but all indications are that he's happy at Stanford and considers it his lifelong "dream job".
Saw this earlier. I'm not sure it holds much water, but
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That's fine. Evaluate their ability. Show me the SB winning coach that's out there right now that you think is going to be the first one to break the SB winning coach jinx.

If Belichik gets fired, I hire him. If McCarthy gets fired, I don't. If Harbaugh gets fired, I don't.

Why?

Because that's my evaluation of how successful I think they're going to be in another situation.
I also totally agree. When you don't read what you're saying you think it sounds stupid, but if you actually read it, it makes sense. You're saying those SPECIFIC guys and their methods are old and washed up. They won their super bowl, but they are losers today.

Who are the best coaches in the NFL today? Out of the box thinkers that were given a chance to be what they are today, not re-used washouts. And John Fox isn't a coach, he's Peyton Manning's new ass puppet. Andy Reid and Pete Carroll are pretty awesome though.

Totally disagree about Harbaugh though bro. Both are awesome.
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I also totally agree. When you don't read what you're saying you think it sounds stupid, but if you actually read it, it makes sense. You're saying those SPECIFIC guys and their methods are old and washed up. They won their super bowl, but they are losers today.

Who are the best coaches in the NFL today? Out of the box thinkers that were given a chance to be what they are today, not re-used washouts. And John Fox isn't a coach, he's Peyton Manning's new ass puppet. Andy Reid and Pete Carroll are pretty awesome though.

Totally disagree about Harbaugh though bro. Both are awesome.
With Harbaugh, I'm not convinced that it's not all Ozzie Newsome. With McCarthy, I'm not convinced it's not all Rodgers.

Reid and Carroll exemplify what I'm talking about wrt coaches who had some success as NFL HCs coming back and looking like they have a shot to win a SB.
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If Lovie Smith is the guy then Philips has to go (fine by me) those guys would not agree on defensive philosophy.

I'll throw some chum in the water. Art Briles. Offensive whiz, good ol boy network keeps growing strong, you can keep Philips and the climax?

Trade down to about 7-8 and draft Johnny Football. Dun dun duuuuuun!!
The only thing about Art Briles is he doesn't fit McNair's requirements. He has no NFL experience.
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Someone explain to me the reasoning behind Shaw. I see quite a bit of potential but he has the same "talented OC" background that Kubiak had... and you tell me how that worked out. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, but doesn't he seem a little unproven?
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With Harbaugh, I'm not convinced that it's not all Ozzie Newsome. With McCarthy, I'm not convinced it's not all Rodgers.

Reid and Carroll exemplify what I'm talking about wrt coaches who had some success as NFL HCs coming back and looking like they have a shot to win a SB.
With McCarthy, I am pretty sure everyone in the world, including McCarthy is now convinced it's all Rodgers.

Ozzie is arguably the best GM in the game, not many can argue, with that said it was his choosing of Harbaugh and Harbaugh getting it done. Dude hasn't had a losing season yet (this one's not over) and fired an OC mid season and still won the SB with the direction change. He can adapt in the NFL which is the problem with these old school coaches. They want to fit a square peg into a circle hole all day because it used to work for them. His resume of winning seasons and deep playoff runs speaks volumes, even with the brain trust known as Ozzie backing him.
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Someone explain to me the reasoning behind Shaw. I see quite a bit of potential but he has the same "talented OC" background that Kubiak had... and you tell me how that worked out. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, but doesn't he seem a little unproven?
He's Stanford's head coach.
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He's Stanford's head coach.
That's my point. It's college. Do you want Nick Saban coaching the Texans, too?
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Someone explain to me the reasoning behind Shaw. I see quite a bit of potential but he has the same "talented OC" background that Kubiak had... and you tell me how that worked out. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, but doesn't he seem a little unproven?
He's the only head coach in NCAA history to have a 100% graduation rate for senior players in a single year. The guy emphasizes being a warrior on the field and in the classroom, and he has pulled off some big wins since Harbaugh left (without Luck too). He's everything you could ask for in a coach as a human being and a leader, he's a great speaker, very well mannered, and really seems to care about his players. He runs a pro-style offense at Stanford, but how well he can compete at this level is TBD. I think he's a good option, but not my first pick. He is most definitely a Bob McNair kind of guy and will definitely be considered if he tells his agent to pursue it.
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I'm having Déjà vu of 2006 all over again.
New head coach coming in to a team with a big question mark playing the QB position. Tells the owner whatever he needs to tell him to convince him he can win with that QB. Sticks with that QB past the point of reason because he married himself to the QB trying to get the gig.


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