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Old 12-06-2013   #41
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Bob also said he wanted someone who could make adjustments...

Two good things that Bob said - the new coach will not have to learn to be a head coach and be able to make haft time adjustments.

At least that is what Bob seems to be hoping for.
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I really hope McNair doesn't preclude himself from a guy like Horton; otherwise, the only one I'd want is a guy like Lovie.
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We can resurrect Vince Lombari himself and we'll still be screwed with Rick Smith running this ship. Guy sucks at everything a GM is supposed to do.
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Didn't they just get torched by the jags 1 week before us?
Ya they did but they have the number.3 defense in the league. they give up points but hell you could say they have the same problem as the Texans weak QB play. therefore the D having to be on the field more then the offense hell your gona give up some points, factor in fatigue and a team seeing every scheme you have drawn up for the game in 1 half I wouldn't doubt a offense adjust and scores some points.
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Lovie is still a beloved guy by Bears fans I talk to here in Chicago. His issue was dealing with the GM to bring in a real offensive coordinator. They never had an identity on offense and the pieces they brought in never fit the OC's system. Players loved him, fans loved him. D was always tough. He got the most out of them. My fear is that you only get a guy 20% better than Kubiak and the team ends up being a consistently good yet never great team. I think there are better options.
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Jon Gruden, analyst, ESPN -- Just about everyone figures he’ll return at some point. Owners continue to check out his interest.
So...are we gonna bring in Tony Dungee first to make him look like a genius? F-aChuckie Barry Switzer 2.0 can keep moving. NEXT!

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Lovie Smith, former head coach, Chicago -- The native Texan led the Bears to a Super Bowl and was fired after going 10-6 last season.
Nope. Smith like Kubiak doesn't know when the pull a mediocre QB who is CLEARLY in over his head. The Kubiak/Schaub Soap opera was almost EXACTLY like the Smith/Grossman drama that Cost the Bears a Superbowl.

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Wade Phillips, defensive coordinator, Texans -- The interim coach took three teams – Denver, Buffalo and Dallas -- to the playoffs as a head coach.
Wade is a good DC...but he IS NOT A HEAD COACH.


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Gus Malzahn, head coach, Auburn -- The native Texan has been a head coach for two seasons, but he helped Auburn win a national title as offensive coordinator.
As Vince Young & Tim Tebow and countless others will attest. THE PROS AINT COLLEGE.



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Playoffs[/b] system Todd Bowles, defensive coordinator, Arizona -- He’s got 15 years of NFL coaching experience, and he’s doing an outstanding job with the Cardinals’ defense.
They haven't won anything.


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Pete Carmichael, offensive coordinator, New Orleans -- This is his eighth season with the Saints, and they’ve had one of the league’s most prolific offenses.
is Brees coming with him?


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Greg Roman, offensive coordinator, San Francisco -- The former Texans’ assistant excelled under Jim Harbaugh at Stanford and followed him to the 49ers.
He got fired as an assistant for a reason.


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Lovie is still a beloved guy by Bears fans I talk to here in Chicago. His issue was dealing with the GM to bring in a real offensive coordinator. They never had an identity on offense and the pieces they brought in never fit the OC's system. Players loved him, fans loved him. D was always tough. He got the most out of them. My fear is that you only get a guy 20% better than Kubiak and the team ends up being a consistently good yet never great team. I think there are better options.
Lovie Smith got the Bears to the Super Bowl, so if 20% better gets us there then I'm happy.
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Lovie is still a beloved guy by Bears fans I talk to here in Chicago. His issue was dealing with the GM to bring in a real offensive coordinator. They never had an identity on offense and the pieces they brought in never fit the OC's system. Players loved him, fans loved him. D was always tough. He got the most out of them. My fear is that you only get a guy 20% better than Kubiak and the team ends up being a consistently good yet never great team. I think there are better options.
Well said I don't see Lovie as the guy.
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Lovie Smith got the Bears to the Super Bowl, so if 20% better gets us there then I'm happy.
I agree from that standpoint but I think he has a very good, Southern, quiet, good guy demeanor to him that will remind people too much of Kubiak...players too. I know it seems small but sometimes a little different direction works. I think Lovie did great work, but a lot of this info is coming from Bears fans here who still love him but thought his time was done. Grew stale.
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he said he wants someone with head coaching experience and nfl experience. he said it would be the ideal situation for him.

i dvr'd it.
This. I think McNair needs to shake himself out of the "usual" and go get a great candidate like Shaw. He is getting great feedback from fans and media on terminating Kubiak. I think he will ride that wave with hiring a non retread.
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What do you guys think about Josh McDaniels?

If we hire Lovie we are gonna need a damn good OC. It also means we're gonna switch to a 4-3 defense.
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Bob Mcnair said he prefers a guy with NFL Head Coaching experience. So I guess that narrows it down to the Jon Gruden, Lovie Smith, Bill Cowher, Wade Phillips. Who are some other guys with NFL HC experience that could be available?

Mike Holmgren took 2 different teams to superbowls. That's my dude.
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Bob Mcnair said he prefers a guy with NFL Head Coaching experience. So I guess that narrows it down to the Jon Gruden, Lovie Smith, Bill Cowher, Wade Phillips. Who are some other guys with NFL HC experience that could be available?
I thought McNair said head coaching experience, not specifically nfl.
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I thought McNair said head coaching experience, not specifically nfl.
That is how i took it too..

I don't think the quote about NFL coaching experience means that it had to be HC in the NFL. O'Brien is a HC and has NFL experience...just not NFL HC experience. So a great college HC with [past NFL ties would probably work if they interviewed well.
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When you look at recent SB winning coaches, you've got guys who had previous SUCCESSFUL NFL HC experience (Belichik, Dungy, Gruden, Vermeil, Coughlin) but who hadn't won a SB and you've got guys with NFL Coordinator experience (Harbaugh, Payton, McCarthy, Billick).

However, there are a lot of coordinators who get NFL HC jobs and fail. So... if given the choice... I'd prefer someone who had previous successful NFL HC experience but who have not won a SB. Lovie Smith fits that bill. Unfortunately, so do guys like Brad Childress and Jack Del Rio. (EDIT: And Whisenhunt...)

If Rex Ryan gets fired from the Jets, he's an option even though I dislike the guy.
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I think not wanting a guy because he's won a superbowl before is the silliest thing I've heard when looking for a new coach.

You look at them as individuals and what they are going to bring to your team. That's it.

All that bs about former suberbowl winning head coaches is a dumb stat. It's the same kind if thinking that leads to kubiak support and Matt Schaub devotion.
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Are you sure?

I thought he said "head coaching experience," but didn't specify "NFL."

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He said he prefers a coach with head coaching experience. No mention of it needing to be NFL head coaching. McClain also said on NFL network that they would absolutely look at David Shaw. Hopefully that is true.
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I think not wanting a guy because he's won a superbowl before is the silliest thing I've heard when looking for a new coach.

You look at them as individuals and what they are going to bring to your team. That's it.

All that bs about former suberbowl winning head coaches is a dumb stat. It's the same kind if thinking that leads to kubiak support and Matt Schaub devotion.
Well.

How many guys have won a SB as a coach and then come back and coached another team to win a SB?

If you want to hire the next George Seifert, go ahead.
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