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Old 12-06-2013   #81
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Per McNair: Wade is a candidate. Then this: "We have a young QB in Case Keenum and we need to find out if he can be a starter". Hmm wonder if this says Bob upset Schaub came in.
That's what I'm hearing this morning.

Personally, I've seen enough of Case to know. He has had plenty of opportunity to show he can be a starter, hasn't played well enough to not take a QB in the top 10 (much less top 5).

We might have a Rivers/Brees situation next season. Case may end up being a starter, but from what I've seen, it makes no sense not to take a QB early in the first & I was a guy rooting to not "need" a QB. But we can't take that chance.
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Says he wants a coach with head coaching experience. So Cowher or Chuckie?????
Sounds like Chuckie or Lovie...neither of which I'm crazy about.

I'd like the Seahawks OC: Bevell. He's done a great job with their offense, and with Russell Wilson specifically.
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...Hmm wonder if this says Bob upset Schaub came in.
Absolutely. Gary supposedly was considering Schaub again. McNair was pizzed to see Schaub in J-Ville.

Emphasis given when McNair announced Keenum as the starting QB for the rest of the season instead if Rick. Gary left the building mad.
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Half measures won't work. I wish Kubes well, but even McNair said it - his goal was to keep Kubes until he retired. I have a feeling he feels the same way about Rick Smith. And there is the problem. Pulling a weed out of your lawn doesn't work if you don't get the root. It just grows back. If the tree is poisoned you can pull fruit off it all day long, but the next year the fruit will still be poisoned because the tree itself is poisoned.

RS is nothing but a yes man for McNair. It's like Weekend at Bernie's or something. Why do I see McNair's mouth moving every time Rick's does? Bob throws his voice very well. The only thing missing are the marionette strings. McNair doesn't want a strong GM, he wants someone just as Milquetoast as he is.

Will a Billick or Cowher, or Gruden want to come into this situation? Highly doubtful.

Lovie Smith? Maybe so ya. I see him on a similar plane as Kubiak. It might help to a small extent to have Lovie, but I just see him as the defensive version of Kubes. I would be ok with it I guess, but I certainly am not doing jumping jacks over Lovie Smith. What has he accomplished?
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Sounds like Chuckie or Lovie...neither of which I'm crazy about.

I'd like the Seahawks OC: Bevell. He's done a great job with their offense, and with Russell Wilson specifically.
Maybe it's just me but the Seahawks offense, specifically Russell Wilson, looked horrible when they came to Reliant Stadium. But I believe that was his worst game of the season passing wise. The Seahawks were lucky to win that game. He won that game with his legs more than his arm.
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He should have been fired three years ago.
This whole group should of been.
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RICK SMITH NEXT PLZZZZ BOB


O HAPPY DAYS O HAPPY DAYS !!!!!!!!!!!
Wade Phillips should be next. Wade should've been first. If it weren't for his daddy dying, & what his daddy meant to the City of Houston, I'd have fired him a long time ago.

Promoted Kollar. Would love to promote Herring but I don't know what his loyalties or aspirations are. He may be fine "knowing" he'll have a job with Wade where ever Wade goes.

Vance Joseph would be walking a thin line.
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as soon as grumpy old man thorn wakes up from his drunkened stupor he's gonna be happier than a pig in mud!!
it's bacon time!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol
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DING DONG THAT BASTICH IS GONE!!!!!!


My Christmas came early! BRING ON CHUCKY!!!!
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Maybe it's just me but the Seahawks offense, specifically Russell Wilson, looked horrible when they came to Reliant Stadium. But I believe that was his worst game of the season passing wise. The Seahawks were lucky to win that game. He won that game with his legs more than his arm.
The Seahawks have a worse O Line than ours. Thier QB is just a bad ass is succsessfull despite his O Lines efforts.
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Case was an issue, but we don't run the type of offense that
he is best suited for (NE, NO, GB, spread and hurry up..)

McNair probably just wants more of Keenum on tape for the
next guy to look at.

If we get someone who wants to sling the ball, then he might
be allowed to compete next year.

I'm guessing the Texans hire someone like Mike Sherman who
wants to run the same old tired west coast (obsolete) system

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Case was an issue, but we don't run the type of offense that
he is best suited for (NE, NO, GB, spread and hurry up..)

McNair probably just wants more of Keenum on tape for the
next guy to look at.

If we get someone who wants to sling the ball, then he might
be allowed to compete next year.

I'm guessing the Texans hire someone like Mike Sherman who
wants to run the same old tired west coast (obsolete) system

TJ
Pretty much my thoughts as well. I think if Keenum is put in a scheme that reflects his abilties, he will be successful. I'd bet dollars to donuts that the Texans are looking for a HC that will utilize what Keenum can bring to the table if you put him in the right scheme...oh and give him an NFL caliber right side of the line. If they get a D minded HC, then that HC will an understanding that his OC better make Keenum successful. Texans will not take a QB with the first pick. ===== to clarify, I don't think Keenum is a stud back there, but I think he is servicable enough that with the right scheme, he could be successful enough that we could focus our draft efforts elseware this year. Fix the right side of the line first and foremost and you can make an average QB look good. HC doesn't need to want to keep Keenum long term.

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3 years too late.
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I don't think the quote about NFL coaching experience means that it had to be HC in the NFL. O'Brien is a HC and has NFL experience...just not NFL HC experience. So a great college HC with [past NFL ties would probably work if they interviewed well.
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It's tough to go out and draft a QB in the 1st when you have so many holes to fill. We all saw it last night. Keenum has 7 starts. The offseason will do him wonders. Pick up a QB in the 4th or 5th and let them battle. IMO, there isn't a franchise QB to be had this year. Bridgewater is not it.

Besides...Keenum is playing for pennies. I think McNair likes that. Go and get a solid foundation and see if Keenum grows next year with the new HC. If not then 2015 will have some good QB's.
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LOL

Wow. Mr. Kubiak, thanks for your efforts here. I wish you peace and good health and go enjoy your family and time away from the NFL.

Mr. McNair - thanks for making the hard decisions that will help our team get back on track and be relevant. Not just in the first round of the playoffs. I look forward to beating the good teams on the road and in prime time Natl broadcasts and making a deep playoff run.........hopefully next year.

I hope we get a great coach with NFL experience - winning records/Superbowl win etc! Would like our QB issue resolved too.
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It's tough to go out and draft a QB in the 1st when you have so many holes to fill. We all saw it last night. Keenum has 7 starts. The offseason will do him wonders. Pick up a QB in the 4th or 5th and let them battle. IMO, there isn't a franchise QB to be had this year. Bridgewater is not it.

Besides...Keenum is playing for pennies. I think McNair likes that. Go and get a solid foundation and see if Keenum grows next year with the new HC. If not then 2015 will have some good QB's.
Assuming we keep the #1 position, this is the crux of not only the offseason, but this is as big a decision this franchise has made since 2006 for sure. I would go QB, but your position is certainly defensible.
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Sorry to see a good man lose his job, but thankful that this era of Texans football can now end. Please send Rick Smith out the door as well.

Good luck to Kubiak in the future. Like him, wanted him to succeed, and hope he rebounds nicely.
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