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View Poll Results: Do you think McNair WILL, not SHOULD, fire Kubiak?
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Old 12-05-2013   #141
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Where are you getting the 50k fan number from?
Why don't you use the number you would like on a more than half empty stadium.
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Why don't you use the number you would like on a more than half empty stadium.
You are estimating only 30% attendance which is comical and why I asked where you got it from
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NO my numbers mean that during your proposed sellout there were quite a few single game tickets unsold and there were 50,000 no show fans who weren't there spending $40 a head and most of the rental suites went unsold.
Seriously, take a remedial reading course.

Past - There was no "proposed sellout" about it. Every Texans game to date has been sold out. If you saw the game then it was sold out. People have not shown up but they have been wasting purchased tickets. It has never been anywhere close to 50k no shows.

Future - The "your numbers" comment was about the future and your speculated ticket sales loss next season.

FYI - club seats and suites are PSLs. The only way you find them for individual games is resales by the owners which does not count as unsold single game tickets because they are already paid for.

By the way, the paid attendance is listed at the bottom of each GameHQ on espn. For example the paid attendance of the recent Jags game was 71,659. NE was 71,769.
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Is it too late to change my vote to "yes?"
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I've just voted on this and even though we've hit another new low, I still voted no. I honestly don't hink he will, I hope I'm wrong. On a side note, it's amazing how off topic this thread has gone.
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i hope so…..
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what would the comcast turtles do?
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No link but Peter King reporting Kubiak will be fired today
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Bob paid 700m along with his friends. His return is around 7% a year over more than 10 years
He got 300 mil from Reliant over a 10 yr period.

Harris county taxpayers pitched in another 200 mil

I dont know how much the minority owners paid but I am assuming around 100 mil. 300+200+100 mil = 600 mil if my math is correct. This means BoB paid out of his pocket 100 mil. You can figure out the % BoB is making on his $$$$ with little to no risk.
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No link but Peter King reporting Kubiak will be fired today
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Is it too late to change my vote to "yes?"
I want to change my vote too.

Last night was a pitful display.
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Taking basically 100-200 mil and turning it into 1.5 bil in a decade isn't a bad return on BoB's $$$$,the kicker is there's very litlle risk in owning an NFL franchise.

Tell me what type businesses you can make that kind of $$$$ with little risk?
The kinds of businesses billionaires have access to. McNair is now in real estate, biotech, and investments. When you've got that kind of money, you can invest it relatively safely and still make big profits.
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This decision is about Bob McNair more than any other time. It will define him for years.

If he somehow tries to justify keeping Kubiak & Co. after this dismal season (and that's putting a positive spin on it), he will be seen as a hack owner that does not have the balls to do what needs to be done to build a winning franchise. He will be known as Boob McNair.

I think he has to fire Kubiak after seeing this 11 game losing streak (and counting), especially watching that garbage last night. Kubiak has lost this team. They are playing undisciplined football, some look lost, others look like they've checked out, and honestly only see about 3-4 players who are still giving 100% (and we know who they are).

Kubiak's generic reply to everything - "It's my fault. It's on me." - needs to be accepted. He's telling the world that this team represents him, and everything that is happening is ultimately his responsibility.

Now let's see if Mr. McNair will hold him accountable.

SMDH getting swept by the friggin' Jaguars. Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe it.
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No link but Peter King reporting Kubiak will be fired today
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@SI_PeterKing I'm pretty sure Gary Kubiak won't survive the season as Houston coach. He may not even survive the day.
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@SI_PeterKing Apologies about using word "survive" with Kubiak. Poor choice of words. Meant he likely won't be kept at end of yr. End could come today
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Like I said: I think it's all about if McNair thinks Kubiak can produce a winner here. I voted "Yes" he would fire him because I thought that losing this much -- especially after how high hopes were -- would shake his confidence in Smithiak. I expect both of them to be fired.
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Kubiaks about to be fired/resign.
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Great, now Wade will get us a win and will be our HC.
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Can't see him getting fired. I expect a resignation or reassignment.

Should he be fired, I hope it is McNair and not Smith doing it. Smith needs to go as well.
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He got 300 mil from Reliant over a 10 yr period.

Harris county taxpayers pitched in another 200 mil

I dont know how much the minority owners paid but I am assuming around 100 mil. 300+200+100 mil = 600 mil if my math is correct. This means BoB paid out of his pocket 100 mil. You can figure out the % BoB is making on his $$$$ with little to no risk.



I dont think you understand how the numbers came together for the deal. I do not believe that Reliant nor Harris county purchased ownership of the Texans. Also I am sure in a 700MM dollar deal Mcnair had to put up more than 100million to obtain enough ownership rights to become the majority owner. Chuck Watson orginally owned 15% Im sure he didnt put up 105million of his own money to only have 15% ownership when 100 million got Bob that majority


also since you have a hard time with facts or math Bob doesnt own 100% currently so the Forbes estimate of 1.4 billion cant be used to calculate his return.
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He just did it.
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