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Old 04-16-2014   #1121
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I guess he's going #1 just like Clowney.
Smart agents are pulling their guys after Brandon Thomas tore his ACL. There's no provision for recovering his lost $$$ from the workout injury. It's a grey area that will be addressed in the future, but Thomas was looking at 1st round and now he's likely 4th rounder at best.

Takes money out of his pocket now, and potentially diminishes his career earnings potential. All because he was doing pre-draft drills.
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Fwiw, Mort said on NFL Insiders yesterday that he expects new #Texans HC Bill OBrien to lean toward "prototype" QBs. Guys who look the part.
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Fwiw, Mort said on NFL Insiders yesterday that he expects new #Texans HC Bill OBrien to lean toward "prototype" QBs. Guys who look the part.
Talk about throwing stuff on the wall and hoping it sticks. We are still 3 weeks away and these last few are going to be filled with stuff like this.
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Wasnt Bortles playing tight end like 3 years ago?
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Wasnt Bortles playing tight end like 3 years ago?
No, I think he was always a QB. Some colleges who were recruiting him wanted him for a TE though.
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It doesn't take a genius to do the simple arithmetic:

Teddy Bridgewater: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...dy-bridgewater

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Blake Bortles: http://espn.go.com/college-football/.../blake-bortles
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Darek Carr: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...080/derek-carr


It doesn't take long to call the roll, Bortles gets beat in almost every instance.


I'm sure you will quickly dismiss all stats or have convenient excuses readily available to discount any and all stats, as is your tendency. You certainly have those prerogatives to do so.
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It doesn't take a genius to do the simple arithmetic:

Teddy Bridgewater: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...dy-bridgewater

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Blake Bortles: http://espn.go.com/college-football/.../blake-bortles
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Darek Carr: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...080/derek-carr


It doesn't take long to call the roll, Bortles gets beat in almost every instance.


I'm sure you will quickly dismiss all stats or have convenient excuses readily available to discount any and all stats, as is your tendency. You certainly have those prerogatives to do so.
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Wasnt Bortles playing tight end like 3 years ago?
Maybe you're thinking of Logan Thomas?

He was actually recruited as a TE and switched to QB after he got on campus. Reverse Owen Daniels.
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It doesn't take a genius to do the simple arithmetic:
No doubt simple arithmetic was not your favorite subject and as you so perfectly as illustrated, you're not a genius and you didn't do the math. However as a Troll and trolling you pass with flying colors.
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No doubt simple arithmetic was not your favorite subject and as you so perfectly as illustrated, you're not a genius and you didn't do the math. However as a Troll and trolling you pass with flying colors.
I figured you would have convenient excuses readily available to discount any and all stats but instead you went straight for the troll card. As these stats so perfectly illustrate, simple arithmetic is definitely not your strong suit. But, you are a genius at talking out your ass.

Teddy Bridgewater
CAREER STATS
year YDS CMP% TD INT
2013 3970 71.0 31 4
2012 3718 68.5 27 8
2011 2129 64.5 14 12

Blake Bortles
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year YDS CMP% TD INT
2013 3581 67.8 25 9
2012 3059 62.9 25 7
2011 958 68.2 6 3

Darek Carr
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year YDS CMP% TD INT
2013 5082 68.7 50 8
2012 4104 67.3 37 7
2011 3544 62.6 26 9

Maybe if you actually looked at the stats instead of spending all day every day searching the internet for select "quotes" to cut and paste that support your simple minded POV you would figure out that stats aren't the answer but only a small part of the equation.
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I figured you would have convenient excuses readily available to discount any and all stats but instead you went straight for the troll card. As these stats so perfectly illustrate, simple arithmetic is definitely not your strong suit. But, you are a genius at talking out your ass.

Teddy Bridgewater
CAREER STATS
year YDS CMP% TD INT
2013 3970 71.0 31 4
2012 3718 68.5 27 8
2011 2129 64.5 14 12

Blake Bortles
CAREER STATS
year YDS CMP% TD INT
2013 3581 67.8 25 9
2012 3059 62.9 25 7
2011 958 68.2 6 3

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CAREER STATS
year YDS CMP% TD INT
2013 5082 68.7 50 8
2012 4104 67.3 37 7
2011 3544 62.6 26 9

Maybe if you actually looked at the stats instead of spending all day every day searching the internet for select "quotes" to cut and paste that support your simple minded POV you would figure out that stats aren't the answer but only a small part of the equation.
In College you can`t just look at numbers - especially not with just overall numbers. Otherwise guys like Leinart would be all pros. So much factos in with these numbers, who did you play against, what system did you play in, what other players were on your team, what did the coach as you to do.

Bortles is a good prospect. He looks the part, he played his best when the game was on the line and he basically does everything good. The problem I have with him is his "boom-bust" scale. He is raw, so there is a good change he busts. Yet I donīt see him becoming a superstar. Big Ben might be the ceiling and even for that there is perhaps a 10% chance. So I see neither the ceiling nor the floor to justify a #1 pick.
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I figured you would have convenient excuses readily available
No excuses needed! A Troll is a Troll is a Troll!
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In College you can`t just look at numbers - especially not with just overall numbers. Otherwise guys like Leinart would be all pros. So much factos in with these numbers, who did you play against, what system did you play in, what other players were on your team, what did the coach as you to do.

Bortles is a good prospect. He looks the part, he played his best when the game was on the line and he basically does everything good. The problem I have with him is his "boom-bust" scale. He is raw, so there is a good change he busts. Yet I donīt see him becoming a superstar. Big Ben might be the ceiling and even for that there is perhaps a 10% chance. So I see neither the ceiling nor the floor to justify a #1 pick.
LikeMike gets it! It's one thing to load your schedule with weak sisters and another to play teams like Penn St. and South Carolina. Not to mention that while playing the sister Jane's you're also playing behind the #1 Defense in college football.

Like any QB, Bortles has a BUST factor. Based on his ability to stand in the pocket while under duress and keep his eyes down field and still avoid pressure better than any other QB in this draft, I expect Bortles will be highly successful in the NFL. In particular watch the SoCaro game and how well Bortles is able to avoid Clowney in at least 4 different occasions. AN eye opener and not many Sunday QBs do it as well.

In addition, Bortles amazing ability to keep cool, calm and collected in the last minutes of the game and deliver the WIN is also a BIG indicator to me of his success on Sunday's. I think Bortles is the only QB in this draft who can stand toe to toe with Andrew Luck and still deliver a win with a GAME WINNING DRIVE!
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Based on his ability to stand in the pocket while under duress and keep his eyes down field and still avoid pressure...
I'm pretty sure Teddy Bridgewater is the only QB in this class capable of doing that.
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The best thing about Bortles is that he's big and tall...which coincidentally is the biggest knock on Bridgewater.

Do we need a QB or a Men's clothing store?

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I'm pretty sure Teddy Bridgewater is the only QB in this class capable of doing that.
I'm pretty sure that Bridgewater NEVER faced Clowney and due to Bridgewater's lack of mobility, I'm not TB could have avoided Clowney's pressure as well as Bortles.
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I'm pretty sure that Bridgewater NEVER faced Clowney and due to Bridgewater's lack of mobility, I'm not TB could have avoided Clowney's pressure as well as Bortles.
Clowney was only playing half speed anyways..... wouldn't have mattered.
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No excuses needed! A Troll is a Troll is a Troll!
So I'm the troll for using the standard you set in the Clowney thread, on your guy?

You posted one of your typical arrogant simple minded post.

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Bingo! It doesn't take a genius to do the simple arithmetic:

Jadevon Clowney: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...deveon-clowney (see 2011,12, 13)

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Aaron Donald: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...3/aaron-donald (see 2010,11,12,13)

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Jeremiah Attaochu: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...emiah-attaochu (see 2010,11,12,13)

It doesn't take long to call the roll, Clowney gets beat in almost every instance.
and I turned it around on you.


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It doesn't take a genius to do the simple arithmetic:

Teddy Bridgewater: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...dy-bridgewater

vs

Blake Bortles: http://espn.go.com/college-football/.../blake-bortles
Vs

Darek Carr: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...080/derek-carr


It doesn't take long to call the roll, Bortles gets beat in almost every instance.


I'm sure you will quickly dismiss all stats or have convenient excuses readily available to discount any and all stats, as is your tendency. You certainly have those prerogatives to do so.
You got called out and the best rebuttle you can muster up is, "you're a troll".
I think it's obvious who the troll is.
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You got called out and the best rebuttle you can muster up is, "you're a troll". I think it's obvious who the troll is.
You don't have to read many of my posts, regardless of the thread, regardless of the subject matter, to find that you are not far behind with some kind of an attack or derogatory post aimed at my message.
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So I'm the troll for using the standard you set in the Clowney thread, on your guy?

You posted one of your typical arrogant simple minded post.



and I turned it around on you.




You got called out and the best rebuttle you can muster up is, "you're a troll".
I think it's obvious who the troll is.

This post made me laugh, well done.
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