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Old 03-19-2014   #961
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MMQB: The Bortles Conundrum

With the right coaching, Blake Bortles is a year away from being the best quarterback in the 2014 NFL draft. And that’s the problem. Which team will take the chance? Here’s an in-depth look at Central Florida’s fabulous and flawed QB
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If you could take the best quarterback in the 2015 draft this May, knowing that you probably wouldn’t get much from him in ’14—and even then he’s still not a sure thing—where would you draft him?

Would you still take him first overall in this talent-laden draft? How about the middle of the first round? Or would you not consider him until the second round?

That, essentially, is the conundrum with Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles...
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With the right coaching, Blake Bortles is a year away from being the best quarterback in the 2014 NFL draft. And that’s the problem. Which team will take the chance? Here’s an in-depth look at Central Florida’s fabulous and flawed QB
Pretty much what I've been saying about Bortles from the beginning. Which is scary, because I typically don't ever agree with Peter King.
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...I typically don't ever agree with Peter King.
Kinda misleading website, but Greg A. Bedard penned that piece.
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Kinda misleading website, but Greg A. Bedard penned that piece.
You would think I would see his picture right there next to the headline...

Saw King's name above the picture and just assumed.
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leave it to Johnny Manziel to be the one that actually wows everyone at his pro-day.

stir that pot even more, johnny football.
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Can't wait to see Bortles in a Texans uniform. He is O'Brien's guy. Hopefully we can get a decent veteran to help him along in his first season.
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OK just returned home, with a cold one in hand & watched Blakes workout today. Kinda funny throwing motion, seems like he is throwing shot put on his finish, by that I mean not a lot of hands, uses his body, legs torso shoulders. maybe that's part of the problem with his longer throws, motion is like a cannon shooting off, flicking it better on shorter routes. also noticed he just got winded towards the end, seemed sapped when longer throws forced, came back underneath on a couple & looked good. best passes where intermediate, crossing routs, struggled with boundary. liked fact they incorporated mock rush at times, showed plus athletic ability for large body. A lot to like, should be able to improve, build up core strength & of course will have pro receivers catching the ball & making it look easy. I'd give him a B+ worthy of top 3 consideration.
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Can't wait to see Bortles in a Texans uniform. He is O'Brien's guy. Hopefully we can get a decent veteran to help him along in his first season.
I wanted Jadeveon Clowney all along but I'll concede with your exact sentiments. It's obvious Blake Bortles is going to be our first overall pick. Bill O'Brien may as well hold a press conference tomorrow and announce it to the world because it's beyond obvious at this point. I'll support Blake Bortles as a Texans fan. It's a new era for Houston Texans football.
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I've said this before and know this as a fact that pro days means little to nothing when evaluating prospects,especially qbs. The most important things are the personal workouts and blackboard sessions by the organization. We see and declare a prospects worthiness,but what we don't see, the private stuff is where prospects are graded. I don't watch pro days. Why? They don't really do anything for me. Judging qbs, I like to know what he was thinking with erand throws,picks,and near picks. Plenty of great or good pro days were overvalued and had teams severely reaching on qb. I'm still trying to figure out why titans drafted locker after his 5-27 game vs nebraska or some of his other terrible games he had on tape.

Jamarcus,Boller,quinn,gabbert and other great pro days meant 0 just like the wonderlic. To me, look at the bad games and look at the similarities to the good games. I've said before, I prefer bridgewater,but I can see why people like bortles. I can't see mccarron,mettenberger,and as a fan manziel. If its bortles,cool, I just think posters are jumping the gun based on pro day.
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I saw some tape of this guys workout and he looks great, moves real good for a big guy, throws the ball with authority, but about his accuracy, I didn't see it ?
Hell if you want a big stud who's real athletic and can throw the football thru the side of a barn, I suggest you draft Logan Thomas, the QB from Virginia Tech. Thomas is 6-6, 250, and had a faster 40 than Bortles, and you can get him in the third round.
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I don't watch pro days. Why? They don't really do anything for me. Judging qbs, I like to know what he was thinking with erand throws,picks,and near picks.
I think that's the benefit of the pro day. During a game, we don't know if the receiver was supposed to cut his route, or convert... if it was supposed to be behind him or in front... it's mostly guesses.

While watching these guys in games, tons of questions should be generated, those questions can be answered at the combine & on his pro day. I like the combine, because they're having to throw to guys they may have never thrown to before & are pretty much having to adjust on the fly. I like the pro days, because even that part is taken out. The QB knows the routes he'll be throwing, he knows the receivers he is throwing to.

At the combine & the pro day, the QBs weaknesses can't be hidden by a game plan tailored for that QB to succeed. You see how good the good is, & how bad the bad is.


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Plenty of great or good pro days were overvalued and had teams severely reaching on qb. I'm still trying to figure out why titans drafted locker after his 5-27 game vs nebraska or some of his other terrible games he had on tape.

Jamarcus,Boller,quinn,gabbert and other great pro days meant 0 just like the wonderlic. To me, look at the bad games and look at the similarities to the good games. I've said before, I prefer bridgewater,but I can see why people like bortles. I can't see mccarron,mettenberger,and as a fan manziel. If its bortles,cool, I just think posters are jumping the gun based on pro day.
I think we're smarter than you give us credit for. The pro day is just a piece of the puzzle, just like the good games & the bad games. It wasn't the Pro Day that got Jamarcus Russell the first overall pick, or Russell Wilson a third round selection... They had game tape, good & bad. They had personal work outs & black board sessions & one on one interviews...

Pete Carol might not have thought he was drafting a Super Bowl winning QB when he drafted Wilson, or a 100+ passer rating QB two years running. But I bet outside of Luck he felt as good about his pick as he would have about the QBs selected before him.
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I wanted Jadeveon Clowney all along but I'll concede with your exact sentiments. It's obvious Blake Bortles is going to be our first overall pick. Bill O'Brien may as well hold a press conference tomorrow and announce it to the world because it's beyond obvious at this point. I'll support Blake Bortles as a Texans fan. It's a new era for Houston Texans football.
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With no mobility and an inability to look at anyone other AJ or OD. I'm with Texian on the BB bandwagon.
Although not on a bandwagon, he looked far better than TB. Plus he gave himself a "B" after a good showing, while TB said he did "good" after stinking the place up. Waiting to see what JFF does, but so far if we are going QB at #1 it seems BB has the upper hand so far.
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It is kind of alarming that Bortles came out of nowhere. I don't ever remember hearing his name until about 6 months ago.

Jay Cutler and Big Ben did the same if I remember right, so maybe he was just under hyped.

He may also be looking good right now because Teddie B crapped the bed at his pro day.
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I wanted Jadeveon Clowney all along but I'll concede with your exact sentiments. It's obvious Blake Bortles is going to be our first overall pick. Bill O'Brien may as well hold a press conference tomorrow and announce it to the world because it's beyond obvious at this point. I'll support Blake Bortles as a Texans fan. It's a new era for Houston Texans football.
This is where I'm at. I don't really like any of the top 3 QB's at 1-1. (I want Robinson/Clowney) But if Bortles is BOB's pick then I will get on board with the pick. Same as with TB/JM/Mack.

I hope the Texans org doesn't screw the pooch again. Go Texans
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This is where I'm at. I don't really like any of the top 3 QB's at 1-1. (I want Robinson/Clowney) But if Bortles is BOB's pick then I will get on board with the pick. Same as with TB/JM/Mack.

I hope the Texans org doesn't screw the pooch again. Go Texans
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I've said this before and know this as a fact that pro days means little to nothing when evaluating prospects,especially qbs. The most important things are the personal workouts and blackboard sessions by the organization. We see and declare a prospects worthiness,but what we don't see, the private stuff is where prospects are graded. I don't watch pro days. Why? They don't really do anything for me. Judging qbs, I like to know what he was thinking with erand throws,picks,and near picks. Plenty of great or good pro days were overvalued and had teams severely reaching on qb. I'm still trying to figure out why titans drafted locker after his 5-27 game vs nebraska or some of his other terrible games he had on tape.

Jamarcus,Boller,quinn,gabbert and other great pro days meant 0 just like the wonderlic. To me, look at the bad games and look at the similarities to the good games. I've said before, I prefer bridgewater,but I can see why people like bortles. I can't see mccarron,mettenberger,and as a fan manziel. If its bortles,cool, I just think posters are jumping the gun based on pro day.
You know that I am no TB fan, but I respect your position. I did not get the Locker pick at the time either.

BTW, if TB is BOB's pick I will be totally on board with TB. After all I'm a Texans fan. Go Texans
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This is where I'm at. I don't really like any of the top 3 QB's at 1-1. (I want Robinson/Clowney) But if Bortles is BOB's pick then I will get on board with the pick. Same as with TB/JM/Mack.

I hope the Texans org doesn't screw the pooch again. Go Texans
Pretty much the same here (except I'm in the Watkins/Robinson camp). Pretty much whomever OB picks -- unless it's just an epic fail -- I'm going to get behind it and support it and hope for the best. For now.

If he goes Bortles or Bridgewater or Mack or Clowney, I'll get behind it. Manziel will be harder to swallow but I'll do what I can.
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Pretty much the same here (except I'm in the Watkins/Robinson camp). Pretty much whoever OB picks -- unless it's just an epic fail -- I'm going to get behind it and support it and hope for the best. For now.

If he goes Bortles or Bridgewater or Mack or Clowney, I'll get behind it. Manziel will be harder to swallow but I'll do what I can.
I think i'll support whomever we select also because he'll be our guy....but mostly...I just dont feel commited to any of these prospects. Nobody really stands out for me. I usually post some in these threads predraft ,but i'm so apathetic about who our #1 is this year i'm just here to get as much info as possible.
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