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Old 02-06-2014   #481
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So Clarkson is a credible source? The same guy who charges exhorbitant amount of money to 'turn kids into stars' ? Lol. Hmmm Bortles comes from an affluent family so it does kinda make sense. A quick google on this snake venom salesman should provide some good wholesome entertainment.

Brooks, king, kiper, Mayock not credible.

Steve Clarkson is a guru. Lmao.
I don't think it would really matter who it was, if they had something positive to say about Bortles, you would find fault with that person. Your batting 1000 % so far.
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He is probably the greatest player of all time .
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Probably!
I thought Elway was the best QB prospect ever but Bortles takes the cake . Italian cream cake at that .
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I don't think it would really matter who it was, if they had something positive to say about Bortles, you would find fault with that person. Your batting 1000 % so far.

I'll take the word of ex players and real analysts before a money hungry CFL washout anyday. I also won't throw a tantrum when someone is critical of "my guy".

Objectivity has long been lost around here. You yourself are as guilty as the next guy. We all have our bets placed, time will tell which horse wins.
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Objectivity has long been lost around here. You yourself are as guilty as the next guy. We all have our bets placed, time will tell which horse wins.
95% of the loss of objectivity "around here" is due to the conduct and bickering of a cadre of folks who are new "around here."

I was here for the great cataclysm of the Vince Young debate and that looked like a conference of Vulcans in comparison.
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...I also won't throw a tantrum when someone is critical of "my guy". Objectivity has long been lost around here...
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95% of the loss of objectivity "around here" is due to the conduct and bickering of a cadre of folks who are new "around here."

I was here for the great cataclysm of the Vince Young debate and that looked like a conference of Vulcans in comparison.
After a time, you may find that having Bortles is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.
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Where did you get this info from?

Bortles biggest knock is that he is missing #2.

Mallett's biggest knock is that he is also missing #2. Also his other biggest knock is exactly what you said that I put in bold.

He was projected by Mayock as a 2nd rounder when he came out WITHOUT even factoring in his drug use and being a flat out idiot.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...any-questions/

This is what he's done since:

4 passes with 1 interception http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...7/ryan-mallett

Just about EVERYONE balls out in preseason, especially against 2nd team units if they deserve to be a starter, but he barely completed over 50% of his passes and a 3/1 TD:INT ratio in the PRESEASON.

http://www.nfl.com/player/ryanmallett/2495443/gamelogs

Dude is a bum. I'll gladly take him on for our 4th round compensatory pick to push and rival whoever we draft, MAYBE our 4.01, but that would be really stretching it for me.

Dude has showed little improvement IMO, this coupled with his need to be paid soon, coupled with his off field antics, coupled with just being a stupid human being (from what I hear, obviously don't know him), make it really hard for me to get behind this guy.
Lets just say I trust BO'B's views on QB play more than yours. Your tearing down of all other QB's not named TB is amusing. Mallett may or may not become the Texans QB. But, yes he proved at Arkansas he can process info quickly. (Far from being a bum.) We don't know how much Mallet has progressed, he plays behind a GOAT. But Godsey/O'Brien have a good idea of Mallett's progression.


I realy don't care who the next QB of the Texans is, but I do want the trenches fixed. (Finally) I'm really looking forward to your reaction IF BO'B passes on TB. In a way I hope he trades for Mallett just to get to see your reaction to your HC disagreeing with your eval of that bum Mallett. (That would be true comedy)
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95% of the loss of objectivity "around here" is due to the conduct and bickering of a cadre of folks who are new "around here."

I was here for the great cataclysm of the Vince Young debate and that looked like a conference of Vulcans in comparison.
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95% of the loss of objectivity "around here" is due to the conduct and bickering of a cadre of folks who are new "around here."
This is hardly true, my first posts on this forum were met with nothing but hostility and insults from folk who have been "around here" for a good while.

It's the internet, people bicker, insult, and act like hooligans...no matter how long they have "been around". Also, its a series of tubes.
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What gets me is Tex and Mussop seem to be able to find good things to say about the other QB's. I think they like pulling the TB fans chains a little bit.

To some of the TB fans/worshipers, no other QB's can have good qualities. They're all bums. The TB fans cant admit that not only are the top 3 QB's close in talent. But other QB's later in the draft have just as much potential as TB.

I'm not really high on any of the QB's in this draft. But I will say I like Smith and Murray at 3-1 much more than TB/JM/BB at 1-1. I doubt many of the TB guys have ever seen Brett Smith play or watched any film on him.
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This is hardly true, my first posts on this forum were met with nothing but hostility and insults from folk who have been "around here" for a good while.

It's the internet, people bicker, insult, and act like hooligans...no matter how long they have "been around". Also, its a series of tubes.
If I was this guy I truly apologize.
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To some of the TB fans/worshipers, no other QB's can have good qualities. They're all bums. The TB fans cant admit that not only are the top 3 QB's close in talent. But other QB's later in the draft have just as much potential as TB.
I'm a "TB fan" but I also really like Johnny and Blake too, just like Teddy a little more at this point but there are still some questions I would like answered that won't be until later this month. But to say QB's later in the draft have just as much potential as Teddy at this juncture is wrong in my eyes...but I really don't like any of the guys after the big 3.

Teddy, Manziel, and Blake are in a class of their own at this point, and no QB measures up to them as prospects...hence why they are all three in industry wide discussion for the first overall pick; while guys like McCarron and Garoppolo are second day guys.
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This is hardly true, my first posts on this forum were met with nothing but hostility and insults from folk who have been "around here" for a good while.
The response to your first post does not bear you out:

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I guess it would of been better IYO if he had just thrown an incomplete pass. Dam him for turning nothing into something.
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I think matts290 is right on this one. When I watch that play, Labhart looks open the whole time. In the NFL, Manziel takes a sack on that play, because he should have seen Labhart much sooner.
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That's not at all what I got from 290's post. He pointed out 2 very viable options that Manziel had from the git go instead decided to go all circus, hop over a downed lineman, run into another one's butt then run around before getting rid of the ball. That kinda stuff just ain't gonna fly in the Big Boy League.
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That's what you got out of that?
Anyway, the comment was not directed at all newcomers and I would have thought the 95% was rather obvious hyperbole.
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The response to your first post does not bear you out:
Notice how I said posts, the plural tense of the word...meaning I was referring to many of my early posts and not just my first one.

My point was the internet is full of meanies regardless of how long you have been registered.
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Notice how I said posts, the plural tense of the word...meaning I was referring to many of my early posts and not just my first one.

My point was the internet is full of meanies regardless of how long you have been registered.
Not interested in a tit for tat on this kind of thing. And generalities without specific knowledge don't trump specific knowledge. As I said above, the comment was not directed at ALL newcomers nor did it exclude misconduct by longer term members.

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What gets me is Tex and Mussop seem to be able to find good things to say about the other QB's. I think they like pulling the TB fans chains a little bit.

To some of the TB fans/worshipers, no other QB's can have good qualities. They're all bums. The TB fans cant admit that not only are the top 3 QB's close in talent. But other QB's later in the draft have just as much potential as TB.

I'm not really high on any of the QB's in this draft. But I will say I like Smith and Murray at 3-1 much more than TB/JM/BB at 1-1. I doubt many of the TB guys have ever seen Brett Smith play or watched any film on him.
I prefer TB but I do like Blake Bortles and would be happy if the Texans take him. I am much more concerned with Manziel's game though. Right now I would have Manziel closer to Derek Carr than Bridgewater & Bortles. I would hope for a trade down if Manziel is the guy Houston decides to take.
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