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Old 05-09-2014   #221
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Carr is the screen king in my eyes. I'm not impressed w him.
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Carr has the best arm of the too qb's. Not even close.

He's going to need to sit and Learn though. Needs to clean up his mechanics.

Also needs to settle a bit. Not be so frantic.
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Derrick isn't just David's brother; he plays just like David. He has the same strengths, the same weaknesses. The only difference is he will watch a little more film during the week, and he will throw up on game day.
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Derrick isn't just David's brother; he plays just like David. He has the same strengths, the same weaknesses. The only difference is he will watch a little more film during the week, and he will throw up on game day.
Throwing up is good. He'll feel better afterwards.
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Derrick isn't just David's brother; he plays just like David. He has the same strengths, the same weaknesses. The only difference is he will watch a little more film during the week, and he will throw up on game day.
If their last name wasn't the same, nobody would compare them. David was more of a gunslinger with bad mechanics who wasn't great at the mental aspects, lacked commitment to perfecting his craft, and lacked leadership qualities. Derek is a much more polished passer with exceptional mechanics who learned both pro style and spread offenses, excels at reading defenses presnap and breaking down coverage, good field vision and has the leadership qualities and dedication his brother lacked. Derek also produced for his whole career, where David was more of a one year wonder.

Oh and David was seen as a tough guy with terrific poise who would stand in the pocket and take hits. Derek is seen as jittery when pressured.

Exactly the same player though.
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yeah, let's get another qb who crumbles under pressure. sweet
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If their last name wasn't the same, nobody would compare them. David was more of a gunslinger with bad mechanics who wasn't great at the mental aspects, lacked commitment to perfecting his craft, and lacked leadership qualities. Derek is a much more polished passer with exceptional mechanics who learned both pro style and spread offenses, excels at reading defenses presnap and breaking down coverage, good field vision and has the leadership qualities and dedication his brother lacked. Derek also produced for his whole career, where David was more of a one year wonder.
Great mechanics? He throws of his back foot a lot and his overall footwork is far from perfect. And he uses his arms too much for throwing, instead of using his whole body.

I agree that he is very different from his brother. And he is a hard worker. But let`s not act like his only problem was his inability to live with pressure. His accuracy is a major area of concern. And although he has a strong arm, he lobs most of his passes, giving defenders a chance to make a play at the ball.

Carr is a project, that imho misses the mental toughness to make it in the NFL.
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If their last name wasn't the same, nobody would compare them. David was more of a gunslinger with bad mechanics who wasn't great at the mental aspects, lacked commitment to perfecting his craft, and lacked leadership qualities. Derek is a much more polished passer with exceptional mechanics who learned both pro style and spread offenses, excels at reading defenses presnap and breaking down coverage, good field vision and has the leadership qualities and dedication his brother lacked. Derek also produced for his whole career, where David was more of a one year wonder.

Oh and David was seen as a tough guy with terrific poise who would stand in the pocket and take hits. Derek is seen as jittery when pressured.

Exactly the same player though.
body language is so similar its scary. this would break me off once & for all as fan of Texans, compounded by fact they could easily traded up to get Manziel or Bridgewater
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I am going to use explanation that only Vinny can understand. Past expiration date FURIKAKE.
funny, I actually have some bad (stale) Seto Fumi 'shaky' in the cabinets and it does remind me of the Carr family.
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funny, I actually have some bad (stale) Seto Fumi 'shaky' in the cabinets and it does remind me of the Carr family.
Ha ha, agree.
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funny, I actually have some bad (stale) Seto Fumi 'shaky' in the cabinets and it does remind me of the Carr family.
I would pay to see Derek bring his pa with O'Brien , a no nonsense type guy , to practice . No thanks on the Fresno mafia but I do get bored some days and need a laugh .
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The guys last name is Carr. It's not as bad as it would be if his name was Gacy, Rifkin or Dahmer, but I just don't want to see him as a Texan. Sometimes history matters. Either way good luck to him wherever he lands.
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Drafting Carr might be the only thing that would cause me to lose it in an epic fashion.

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If their last name wasn't the same, nobody would compare them. David was more of a gunslinger with bad mechanics who wasn't great at the mental aspects, lacked commitment to perfecting his craft, and lacked leadership qualities. Derek is a much more polished passer with exceptional mechanics who learned both pro style and spread offenses, excels at reading defenses presnap and breaking down coverage, good field vision and has the leadership qualities and dedication his brother lacked. Derek also produced for his whole career, where David was more of a one year wonder.

Oh and David was seen as a tough guy with terrific poise who would stand in the pocket and take hits. Derek is seen as jittery when pressured.

Exactly the same player though.
But he didn't. Not in the NFL. David was jittery too, in the pocket anyway. Bottom line is Derek will fold under pressure. Playoffs means pressure.
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But he didn't. Not in the NFL. David was jittery too, in the pocket anyway. Bottom line is Derek will fold under pressure. Playoffs means pressure.
Have to get there, first.
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Carr will throw pics out of spite for this board. He may even dawn the evil number and keep the curse alive. NO CARR!!!

Jimmy G in the place to be!!!
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We know this because of all the NFL games he has played ...
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Carr will throw pics out of spite for this board. He may even dawn the evil number and keep the curse alive. NO CARR!!!

Jimmy G in the place to be!!!
Aren't Garopollo's numbers under pressure the worst of the QBs?
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We know this because of all the NFL games he has played ...
We know this because he did it in college. He is a dump-off passer who excelled against medium to bad competition. When faced with a great defense he just looked rattled and clueless.

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