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Old 11-17-2013   #21
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That must be why VY is our QB.
Not exactly the same. VY was a potential circus. This circus we are currently in was not expected.
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Not exactly the same. VY was a potential circus. This circus we are currently in was not expected.
Please. Potential circus had nothing to do with not drafting VY. McNair resisted the clamor for the hometown and state hero based on football reasons such as whether his game would translate to the NFL, his ability to learn an NFL playbook, the fact they had pushed a big stack of chips in on Carr exercising his buyback option 2 months earlier, etc.
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The only scenario where I can see a change in 2013 is if McNair goes to Kubiak sometime in December and tells Gary he has decided to go in another direction along with the offer that Kubiak can finish out the season. Under the circumstances Gary says it best if he takes his leave from the team at that time. This is not college where there is a recruiting deadline the first Wednesday in February. There really is no advantage to firing an NFL coach mid season. You can't talk to perspective coaches who are currently coaching. There will be other head coaches fired and good position coaches who will become available after the season, not before. It just doesn't make any sense, the damage is done.
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What Kubiak did today was to turn the entire locker room against him. He totally destroyed what little morale that was left. Its completely unexcusable. Kube, Smith and Schaub need to clean out their lockers by end of day on Monday.

Wade is not the answer. There are some winners out there that might be able to turn this debacle around. It will have to be someone with a "take charge" personality.

Very sad day for Texans wherever we are.
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What did happen? I'm overseas and didn't get the chance to suffer through this debacle.
He and Schaub were yelling at each other on the sideline. Then Andre walked off the field before time ran out.
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Please. Potential circus had nothing to do with not drafting VY. McNair resisted the clamor for the hometown and state hero based on football reasons such as whether his game would translate to the NFL, his ability to learn an NFL playbook, the fact they had pushed a big stack of chips in on Carr exercising his buyback option 2 months earlier, etc.
VY has nothing to do with the state of the current circus. You introduced VY into the current conversation.
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I'm probably in the minority, but I think suffering the stroke makes it easier to let Kubiak go.

McNair can say it was a "mutual decision" and "will allow Gary to focus on regaining his full health." Something like that.

I think that's how it'll happen, and after today's game will happen before the season ends. Like this week or next.
I predict it won't happen during the season. With our luck, it might not happen at all. Or they hire Wade Phillips, almost as bad.
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I can see why they might go the Wade Phillips route cuz his dad and kinda him are so loved in HOuston
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I can see why they might go the Wade Phillips route cuz his dad and kinda him are so loved in HOuston
Could be the WORST THING EVER. Unless they hire some young hotshot to be OC

Wade would probably hire his son...
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Who are candidates?

Inb4 cowher

I mean real actual viable candidates. College standouts or current OC/DC? What about Kyle Shanahan? I don't know much except when he was here this offense was well oiled.
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Chucky


uhhh I wouldn't mind the coach from Alabama LOL


the coach from Texas A&M but we kinda aleady went that route with kubes lol
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When does Baylor end its season?

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When does Baylor end its season?

Art Briles signed a 10 year extension with Baylor
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Greg Schiano will be fired before Kubiak.
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no chance bob fires anybody until the season is over.

releasing ed reed is as good as it gets.
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VY has nothing to do with the state of the current circus. You introduced VY into the current conversation.
Damn you caught me introducing a dead on point example in response to the assertion made which was:

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Bob is all about public perception.
VY is the best example we have of how McNair responds to public perception on how his team should be run.
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Who are candidates?

Inb4 cowher

I mean real actual viable candidates. College standouts or current OC/DC? What about Kyle Shanahan? I don't know much except when he was here this offense was well oiled.
Lovie Smith - doesn't have a current job.
Kevin Sumlin - has been rumored by people with delusional problems
Cowher - as listed by fans who apparently think spending close to a decade away from the game will give him some sort of high powers
Gruden - I think he and Cowher are pretty similar in that they are probably destined to remain on TV like Herm Edwards and Tony Dungy


I don't know about any execs though for the GM position and I believe if a full house cleanings happens (Right now, I'd say it's not) I think exec gets filled first and works it's way top down.
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Lovie Smith - doesn't have a current job.
Kevin Sumlin - has been rumored by people with delusional problems
Cowher - as listed by fans who apparently think spending close to a decade away from the game will give him some sort of high powers
Gruden - I think he and Cowher are pretty similar in that they are probably destined to remain on TV like Herm Edwards and Tony Dungy


I don't know about any execs though for the GM position and I believe if a full house cleanings happens (Right now, I'd say it's not) I think exec gets filled first and works it's way top down.
yep, we need a new GM and trust him with the HC hire.

cannot make the same mistake twice (HC before GM).
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I said it earlier in the year...

Greg Roman and Bill O'Brien are at the top of my list.
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Cowher - as listed by fans who apparently think spending close to a decade away from the game will give him some sort of high powers
As much as I would like him as a coach I don't think Cowher is a reality. Didn't Joe Gibbs come back after a long time out and it was a complete disaster. At some point the game passes you by, especially if you aren't dealing with it day in and day out.
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