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Old 11-18-2013   #161
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I get it. But, there is a level of respect and civility also. Again, they are 0-4 since he was benched. Boo at the end of the game. Yell at the coaches. Boo a bad play. But, come on!
I'm with you -- I will always promote civility, and I hate hearing people boo players who work their asses off. But, as much as we both hate it, it should be expected that any NFL fanbase will boo the entrance of a QB who had a meltdown and broke the league's pick six record. No avoiding that.

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I'm with you -- I will always promote civility, and I hate hearing people boo players who work their asses off. But, as much as we both hate it, it should be expected that any NFL fanbase will boo the entrance of a QB who had a meltdown and broke the league's pick six record. No avoiding that.



Yes.
Look at who held it previously and then understand that it's a completely meaningless "record". Interceptions are largely based on luck, and pick 6's even more so. Keenum has thrown a dozen passes that should have been picked off but were dropped by a DB who had a reasonable chance to catch it. Schaub threw plenty of those too, and so did Manning, Brady, Brees, etc.

Schaub has performed poorly for most of this year. He's also flashed some of the old Matt, that makes you think he's not done.

I'm certainly willing to give Keenum time to develop; the season is over. I simply haven't seen anything at this point that makes me think he's going to do so. I just think the pro game is too fast and too complex for him. He's a better Rex Grosman.

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Look at who held it previously and then understand that it's a completely meaningless "record". Interceptions are largely based on luck, and pick 6's even more so. Keenum has thrown a dozen passes that should have been picked off but were dropped by a DB who had a reasonable chance to catch it. Schaub threw plenty of those too, and so did Manning, Brady, Brees, etc.

Schaub has performed poorly for most of this year. He's also flashed some of the old Matt, that makes you think he's not done.

I'm certainly willing to give Keenum time to develop; the season is over. I simply haven't seen anything at this point that makes me think he's going to do so. I just think the pro game is too fast and too complex for him. He's a better Rex Grosman.

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the keenum that we have seen is miles better than the "old matt" you refer to.
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Into triple coverage? Really, that was the best option there? "Look, I can throw TDs to AJ too, not my fault he doesn't go up and get them" - Schaub

First of all, it was double coverage. Second, I did not think it was a good decision and likely not a good throw. I'm not one of the fans pretending like the 8 losses are the result of a single player.

I'm just pointing out the obvious- on 4th down, with a chance to win the game, AJ quit on the play... That is what happened. Clearly, he is frustrated with the season. I get it. However, he allowed the frustration to diminish effort. As a fan, lack of focus and physical effort are the things I have the least tolerance for. I already know that Schaub's limited mobility and marginal arm are hurdles the team has to overcome in the redzone. The difference, however, is that he has no contol over those things. Effort is entirely within the control of each player on the field and on a couple plays today, AJ lacked effort when it mattered.
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Weren't you blathering about "freedom of speech" in a different thread?

Take your own advice, sport.
What does criticizing someone's words have to do with freedom of speech?

Do you really believe that freedom of speech means everyone should agree with you or remain silent? That is a myopic view of the world, to say the least.
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I'm with you -- I will always promote civility, and I hate hearing people boo players who work their asses off. But, as much as we both hate it, it should be expected that any NFL fanbase will boo the entrance of a QB who had a meltdown and broke the league's pick six record. No avoiding that.
I think it's like the cheering when Schaub got hurt. No one was happy he got hurt. Everyone was happy that another QB was going to get to play & they didn't care which one.

That's not Matt's fault. That's not the fans fault. That's whoever decided to stick by his guy & show an unwavering commitment. That was in game 6 after we've already lost three in a row & that QB had already set the record for most consecutive games with a pick 6. The game prior that was especially ugly; he finished with three ints (pick 6 included) & a passer rating below 40 (that's the easier to score highly passer rating, not QBR). He got pulled in that game, but instead of letting the back up try to win it, we start resting our starters.

It might have appeared that the fanbase was booing Schaub, but they were really booing the decision to put Schaub in the game. It made no sense. & while I believe recent history says we had no chance of coming back with Case (c'mon, we hadn't moved the ball all game long & he generally plays better in the first half) we'll never know. That very well could have been the game that started the Case Keenum legend.

To add insult to injury, it played out like just about everyone in the stadium not named Gary Kubiak thought was most probable. Four trips to the red zone, no TDs, lost game.

I think it was a ballsy call by Kubiak. All chips to the center of the table. I'm sure he knew it wouldn't be popular.
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What does criticizing someone's words have to do with freedom of speech?

Do you really believe that freedom of speech means everyone should agree with you or remain silent? That is a myopic view of the world, to say the least.
Ya know.. If bob cleans house and hires a proper gm and hc, and they really turn things around.. I'm going to remember which side you were on during these dark times. You are either with the repressive entity, or against it. Keep your head in the sand, i'll let you know when it's safe to come out
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on that last play Hopkins and Garrett were wide OPEN


Hopkins was damm near sittin on the 5 yard line

I don't know why u throw it to ANdre when hes blanketed by like 4 Raiders


also matt throw the ball 2 soon he could of stood in the pocket a lot longer the rusher on his left fell right on his face
someone please post a screen grab, PLEASE.
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About leaving Houston .Andre just says "I'm under contract" makes me wonder if he is tired of the BS here
Yeah it is PfT so .....
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About leaving Houston .Andre just says "I'm under contract" makes me wonder if he is tired of the BS here
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The Ed Reed situation helped he see more clearly what this organization is all about... not winning or holding the right people accountable. Wouldn't be surprised if Texans cut or traded Andre. Good ol boy system...
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AJ is class. I think we saw what MS is on the sideline after the game. Watching MS at podium after game. He is just so happy to be in spotlight again.
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Let's see if this gif posts from the sideline exchange... guy in the red shirt at bottom left was like "uh oh... Dre about to knock someone out"

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Matt Schaub mentally is the worst qb in nfl history... yes that includes David Carr. Kubiak is the stupidest coach in nfl history.
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Oh and you can't blame it on Jacoby Jones this time... so Andre now? Wow...
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I can see why Matt was so frustrated with the team (false starts, etc.) when he came back in--he is fighting for his job & all that (although he doesn't actually deserve it)--but he should know better than to show his frustration toward Andre Johnson. That's the last guy he needs to be seen yelling at. Even if it were to turn out that he was right and AJ made some kind of mistake, AJ has such a stellar reputation as a consummate professional....AND everyone can see now how many TDs AJ might have had over the years with a different QB too...

Mattie picked the wrong guy to pick on. Really ought to apologize publicly for his own sake, before there is a lynch mob at his door.

PS-I can't bring myself to bring out the pink soap. Just can't do it after the man had a stroke on the sideline. I am ready to see his replacement though.
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Matt Schaub mentally is the worst qb in nfl history... yes that includes David Carr. Kubiak is the stupidest coach in nfl history.
This summarizes the absurdity and obnoxiousness of all the petulant and fickle fans.

"Matt Schaub mentally the worst QB in NFL history"? Wow! really? I guess his wins, the probowls, etc... are the result of his dependence on his special athletic and physical tools. Yeah, that must be it.
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AJ is class. I think we saw what MS is on the sideline after the game. Watching MS at podium after game. He is just so happy to be in spotlight again.
I have a lot of respect for AJ as a person and teammate. I have no idea where you get the idea that Matt Schaub is an attention whore, though. That is out of left field. Schaub is consistently classy and yesterday's little episode on the sideline is the exception that proves the rule. Schaub never does anything to call out another teammate... it is an example of how frustrated he is and how frustrated AJ is. For those who have played team sports before- this is not a big deal. Disagreements happen all the time in the heat of the moment.

The Texans are 2-8. There is plenty to be frustrated about and nearly any player on the team has contributed some pretty big blunders to be in this position. Plenty of blame, no doubt, and Schaub shoulders a fair amount of it. Still, he's not "the" reason for it and watching the Texans lose 4 games in a row with Keenum starting should highlight that point pretty clearly.
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I have a lot of respect for AJ as a person and teammate. I have no idea where you get the idea that Matt Schaub is an attention whore, though. That is out of left field. Schaub is consistently classy and yesterday's little episode on the sideline is the exception that proves the rule. Schaub never does anything to call out another teammate... it is an example of how frustrated he is and how frustrated AJ is. For those who have played team sports before- this is not a big deal. Disagreements happen all the time in the heat of the moment.

The Texans are 2-8. There is plenty to be frustrated about and nearly any player on the team has contributed some pretty big blunders to be in this position. Plenty of blame, no doubt, and Schaub shoulders a fair amount of it. Still, he's not "the" reason for it and watching the Texans lose 4 games in a row with Keenum starting should highlight that point pretty clearly.
Schaub is an easy target for two reasons .

1. Fans aren't sold on Matt , who is 47-43 as a starter . The QB gets to much credit and to much blame and as the team struggles , the QB is the face .

2. Matt is to a fluid athlete what Mount Cody is to ballet . What's that mean , he looks a lot worse right off the top . The eye test comes when the Texans stink vs top teams . Even when they have the game won ... say ... vs Seattle and he tosses a pick 6 , then says we have to play better as a team , do you realize he ain't one of them ( top notch QBs ) .

At the end of the day Matt is a system QB with decent stats but he can't get you any further than the Texans have been . Heck he can't even fetch 500 anymore . Why ... his skills and Kubiak's catering to the lack of is toast .
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I have a lot of respect for AJ as a person and teammate. I have no idea where you get the idea that Matt Schaub is an attention whore, though. That is out of left field. Schaub is consistently classy and yesterday's little episode on the sideline is the exception that proves the rule. Schaub never does anything to call out another teammate... it is an example of how frustrated he is and how frustrated AJ is. For those who have played team sports before- this is not a big deal. Disagreements happen all the time in the heat of the moment.

The Texans are 2-8. There is plenty to be frustrated about and nearly any player on the team has contributed some pretty big blunders to be in this position. Plenty of blame, no doubt, and Schaub shoulders a fair amount of it. Still, he's not "the" reason for it and watching the Texans lose 4 games in a row with Keenum starting should highlight that point pretty clearly.
Uh, you do realize that this was our superstar player, don't you? This guy is a Boy Scout, and is adored by everyone. If HE can get frustrated to the point of a heated exchange, that's an indictment on this team. This was not "just another scuffle" between players. This was symbolic.

And you just refuse to believe that your man crush head coach is responsible for this mess, I see. But you will see the light when he's unemployed at the end of the season.

When the star player responds with "I'm under contract" when asked if he wants to stay here, that's proof heads need to roll.


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I have a lot of respect for AJ as a person and teammate. I have no idea where you get the idea that Matt Schaub is an attention whore, though. That is out of left field. Schaub is consistently classy and yesterday's little episode on the sideline is the exception that proves the rule. Schaub never does anything to call out another teammate... it is an example of how frustrated he is and how frustrated AJ is. For those who have played team sports before- this is not a big deal. Disagreements happen all the time in the heat of the moment.

The Texans are 2-8. There is plenty to be frustrated about and nearly any player on the team has contributed some pretty big blunders to be in this position. Plenty of blame, no doubt, and Schaub shoulders a fair amount of it. Still, he's not "the" reason for it and watching the Texans lose 4 games in a row with Keenum starting should highlight that point pretty clearly.

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