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Old 11-17-2013   #101
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He had one in his hands from schaub... An easier play than a few of those keenum TDs. Wide receivers love playing with QBs that can extend plays, etc... I remember when every WR in the NFL wanted to play with Vick. Who cares? AJ will prepare each week and show himself on Sundays. I don't think anyone that matters care about his assessment of the QB play.

There is a lot to be frustrated with when the team is 2-8... If winning is vital to him, I am sure the Texans would agree to restructure his contract in order to create more cap room to bring in more talent on offense.
AJ has restructured countless times already.
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He had one in his hands from schaub... An easier play than a few of those keenum TDs. Wide receivers love playing with QBs that can extend plays, etc... I remember when every WR in the NFL wanted to play with Vick. Who cares? AJ will prepare each week and show himself on Sundays. I don't think anyone that matters care about his assessment of the QB play.

There is a lot to be frustrated with when the team is 2-8... If winning is vital to him, I am sure the Texans would agree to restructure his contract in order to create more cap room to bring in more talent on offense.
I bet he carries some stroke , I bet AJ wishes Matt would go to the open guy when the Raiders are dedicating half the team to him .
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Also, he should consider not quitting on his routes when the game is on the line... He did it twice in the red zone in the 4th quarter.
It prob became habit that he never gets looked at by Schaub in the endzone, i'm sure he was shocked when the ball did go his way.
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When did you see him sulking on the sidelines?
Seriously?

Are you asking someone when they have seen Matt Schuab sulking?

Some people on this board make comments that lead you to believe they have never watched the Texans play ...
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...in-texans-loss

So apparently Kubiak isn't bothered by the exchange between Schaub and Johnson. Schaub was just put in there to spell Keenum and Keenum will start again next week.

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Also, he should consider not quitting on his routes when the game is on the line... He did it twice in the red zone in the 4th quarter... Not to mention letting a TD get defended away because he tried to body catch it instead of grabbing it with his hands as he has been taught for the past 20 years of his football life.
Oh it's AJs fault Schaub failed on 4th and 7. You can't rag on a guy who has given everything he has to this team .
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It amazes me how AJ wont finish a simple route for Schaub but he just runs down the field and makes amazing plays and TD catches for Keenum. Just saying, maybe he was deflated when he saw Schaub back out there.
It amazes me that a professional would completely quit on a route on 4th and 2 that could have been a TD.
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It wasn't AJ's fault. If he had run the wrong pattern, Schaub would never have seen him. He was double covered and would have been wherever he went. Schaub was the problem, trying to force the ball in there instead of looking for the tight end. Keenum should have been in for that last play, at least.
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just watched the replay, looks like dre ran a curl route and matt threw an in route.....dre took blame, fine. blame him. but id still bet it was matts fault
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Schaub should of never been out there. Kubiaks lame excuse about we needed to make a switch is funny. How come no switch was made when Schaub was throwing pick 6s to every team we played cause he was so predictable. But yet just because a team is blitzing us he makes a switch haha
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Think AJ didn't play 100% because it was Schaub. I think he lost hope when Schaub was put back in. Not saying it's right, but seems to me that Schaub has lost AJ, and maybe a bunch of the other guys.
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Think AJ didn't play 100% because it was Schaub. I think he lost hope when Schaub was put back in. Not saying it's right, but seems to me that Schaub has lost AJ, and maybe a bunch of the other guys.
I agree AJ played inspired with Case out there, and rightfully so when all his 5 TDs have come in 2 games with Case. And yes we are 0-3 with Case BUT to lose 3 games by 7 points and have 5 missed FGs is very telling.
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yup aj quit on his route

just like the pick 6 vs the seahawks was ajs fault for not "fighting for the ball more".....thats what schaub does. blames others and never credits himself with fault....its always "we" or "us".....i will never believe dre just stopped running, imo he ran a different route.....and matt threw into triple coverage...of course hed blame dre
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I agree AJ played inspired with Case out there, and rightfully so when all his 5 TDs have come in 2 games with Case. And yes we are 0-3 with Case BUT to lose 3 games by 7 points and have 5 missed FGs is very telling.
I think any objective observer would say that Keenum has some issues (OMG! A rookie has issues?!?!), but he gave the team a better chance to win. When Schaub was out there, they were getting blown out. So the team has more issues than just QB, but at least with Keenum, things like missed FGs mattered.
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I agree AJ played inspired with Case out there, and rightfully so when all his 5 TDs have come in 2 games with Case. And yes we are 0-3 with Case BUT to lose 3 games by 7 points and have 5 missed FGs is very telling.
yup, but haters and blind loyalists on this message board fail to see that
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Think AJ didn't play 100% because it was Schaub. I think he lost hope when Schaub was put back in. Not saying it's right, but seems to me that Schaub has lost AJ, and maybe a bunch of the other guys.
If AJ quit it was because the ball shouldn't have been thrown to him . It's at the 4:04 mark . he was in the slot at the inside of the T and the ball ended up at the E in Texans , with a lot of Raiders around .

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If AJ quit it was because the ball shouldn't have been thrown to him . It's at the 4:04 mark . he was in the slot at the inside of the T and the ball ended up at the E in Texans , with a lot of Raiders around .

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not a great view but to me it looked like dre ran a curl and schaub threw an in route
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I think any objective observer would say that Keenum has some issues (OMG! A rookie has issues?!?!), but he gave the team a better chance to win. When Schaub was out there, they were getting blown out. So the team has more issues than just QB, but at least with Keenum, things like missed FGs mattered.
Thats 1 way to look at it....
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not a great view but to me it looked like dre ran a curl and schaub threw an in route
I think Schaub locked in to AJ and the Raiders converged on the spot . AJ does look like he curled .
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No Anti-Keenum hardon, I just don't think he's an NFL starting QB. Our best bet is to lose out and pick one of the QB's in next years draft.
Schaub needs to go, the whole coaching staff needs to go and Keenum needs to go back to being a benchwarmer.
Unless there is a change at HC & GM we'd get the one guy that doesn't become a great one.
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