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Old 11-17-2013   #61
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Once Schaub came in the Raiders didn't blitz almost at all. No need. He simply isn't good enough for them to worry about him having a lot of time int he pocket.
Texans were two yards away from winning the game. Bad decision by them then. In all honesty, though, Schaub did beat the blitz a couple of times... enough for the Raiders to think twice about sending another blitz.
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Texans were two yards away from winning the game. Bad decision by them then. In all honesty, though, Schaub did beat the blitz a couple of times... enough for the Raiders to think twice about sending another blitz.
They didnt send the blitz until late in the forth and he completed one pass for 7 yards against the blitz.
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No Anti-Keenum hardon, I just don't think he's an NFL starting QB. Our best bet is to lose out and pick one of the QB's in next years draft.
Schaub needs to go, the whole coaching staff needs to go and Keenum needs to go back to being a benchwarmer.
Two years too late to suck for Luck.
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No Anti-Keenum hardon, I just don't think he's an NFL starting QB. Our best bet is to lose out and pick one of the QB's in next years draft.
Schaub needs to go, the whole coaching staff needs to go and Keenum needs to go back to being a benchwarmer.
Even then, wouldn't it be better to have a benchwarmer with more experience and with some learning how to pick up the blitz next season? Keenum may not be the long term solution but if he's worth keeping on the roster next year while Schaub is sent packing, I'd rather invest in Keenum's development than sticking with Schaub.
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That's what it was. You could see his frustration. Keenum can finish, Schaub can't finish.
Are you joking?

Keenum hasn't finished one game this season and has had the ball in his hands at the end of the game almost every week he has started.

I'm not defending schaub because I think he sucks but saying keenum can finish is ridonkulous.

I'm also ok with kubiak benching keenum. He was playing awful. What pisses me off is he has never held schaub to the same degree. Schaub only got benched due to injury. I don't think keenum is the answer for the texans but I do think he should start for the rest of the season.
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so what does that tell you?

btw,

its the coaching staf particularly kubiak that needs to handle the blitz better.

You have to call plays that beat the blitz, not help.
Schaub handled the blitz great. He got rid of the ball and moved the team without a run game with little time. Unfortunately, without a run game clicking, schaub lacks the arm and athleticism to make plays in the red zone consistently.

Keenum is struggling to process the blitz and make the hot reads. I also think teams are sending pressure up the middle realizing he can't see the field with the traffic in front of him due to his lack of heights.

The biggest game day play calling mistake was the 3rd and 1 from the two to a hobbled and injured Tate. Otherwise, the issue was poor execution, which can also be blamed on coaches in terms of personnel decisions and preparation this week.
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They didnt send the blitz until late in the forth and he completed one pass for 7 yards against the blitz.
And why do you think they blitzed schaub less?...
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Schaub handled the blitz great. He got rid of the ball and moved the team without a run game with little time. Unfortunately, without a run game clicking, schaub lacks the arm and athleticism to make plays in the red zone consistently.
We must have been watching different games. Schaub almost never got blitzed by the Raiders. Yes, he has a quicker release and checks down better. But sometimes I think he checks down too quickly because he has no ability to avoid the rush.

And don't say it's because they knew Schaub could handle the blitz. Do we remember the last few games before Schaub got hurt? He was getting destroyed by the blitz. Plus they knew that Schaub couldn't beat them deep.

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The biggest game day play calling mistake was the 3rd and 1 from the two to a hobbled and injured Tate. Otherwise, the issue was poor execution, which can also be blamed on coaches in terms of personnel decisions and preparation this week.
Yes, that whole entire final series of downs was terrible (and predictable) play calling. The Raiders saw every one of those plays coming. And that predictability in play calling has bitten them in the ass too many times.
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Keenum has a lot to learn, but he's also played only 3.5 games.
Keenum needs to learn to read the blitz and find a checkdown receiver. It's his desire to make a big play on every play that's hurting him more than anything else.

They stopped blitzing Schaub because they realized all they had to do was drop 8 in coverage and Schaub couldn't stop them.
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And why do you think they blitzed schaub less?...
Well because they know he cant beat them deep anyways, why do you think they went soft zone the entire 2nd half on Schaub. Schaub cant beat the blitz, he goes fetile before he's even touched most of the time.
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8 TDs and 1 Int in 3 1/2 games says other wise. But after seeing Schaub today i doubt we need to have this debate anymore. Cause Kubiak is a moron and he will ride Schaub into the sun set.
You are making a pro-schaub argument.. Great stats but not clutch late and not winning games. Keenum is 0-4 As a starter and has not moved the team in the second half of any of his games.

I like keenum but clearly the offensive problems don't disappear when keenum enters and schaub leaves... We just trade one set of issues for another. Neither player, at this point in their career, is capable of winning consistently if the rest of the team is playing poorly.
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I know this is also going to be HERESY on this board and I'm as big an Andre fan as there is but it did look like he stopped on that 4th down pass in the end zone.
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I know this is also going to be HERESY on this board and I'm as big an Andre fan as there is but it did look like he stopped on that 4th down pass in the end zone.
AJ said he quit on his route in the post game interviews. Nobody should be mad that you're saying exactly what happened.
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I think Andre is telling him I'll meet you in the parking lot.

And Matt said I'm not taking my helmet off.
I didn't get to see this. I heard it was much worse.
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And why do you think they blitzed schaub less?...
Just simple adjustments. The numbers are there. Schaub has horrible numbers against the blitz and pressure. So don't take it to mean Schaub is that much better under pressure cause he actually isn't. Difference in one guy is young and practically a rookie and the other a vet that is 30+ in age. Not saying either is the answer as if seems clear Schaub is not and Kubiak has decided on keenum. Guess time to look at potential Draft picks.
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Heads are gonna roll, son! There's no way you go 2-8 and no one gets fired.
Woa! I'd been saying that McNair will (stupidly) bring Kubiak back, but Andre's comments make me think a housecleaning is coming. Damn.


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Compete for what? #1 overall pick in the draft?
Don't have to wait until next year. Unfortunately we're in the hunt for that prize this yr.
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You start really bad threads. Of course none of these things are going to happen.
You post really bad comments. Andre has already publicly stated he is just "playing out his contract". Think he wants to be here? Think his agent wont try to get him out? Wake up ...
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You post really bad comments. Andre has already publicly stated he is just "playing out his contract". Think he wants to be here? Think his agent wont try to get him out? Wake up ...
The ONLY way AJ decides to stay here is if we clean house and bring in a prolific head coach with a prolific staff surrounding him.
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