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Old 11-17-2013   #21
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If AJ and JJ are unhappy with the coaching staff, the coaches will be fired long before they would let either of them leave.
Maybe they should be unhappy with the entire organization...
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No way does he not retire a Texan.
Sure there is a way ... can only franchise him twice right?
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Kubiak is just Hell bent not give Case the proper time to develop.


This could apply to a number of personnel all the way from the FO to the players.:

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Schaub is Mr. 3 and out and get into the redzone and settle for 3. Starters don't think that way and Kubiak needs to stop living vicariously through him already. Putting Schaub back in was Kubiak saying "Mr. McNair...please fire me."
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Maybe they should be unhappy with the entire organization...


Sure there is a way ... can only franchise him twice right?
I believe you can keep franchising but the salary increases start to get obscene.
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Ok he can go but he will be shipped off to like the browns or Tampa if he wants
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I see a lot of people dismissing it, but if houston doesn't get a legit coach in here next season that immediately competes for a Super Bowl I would not be shocked at all if Dre asks to be traded to a contender.

Dude is at the end of his career. He's not going to want to sit through a rebuilding period.

And you better believe watt is paying attention to what Dre has been through here.

Yeah these guys get paid a lot, but they want to win. They want to be all time greats.

Unfortunately, the texans haven't historically been a franchise where guys reach their maximum potential.
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Can we please stop with these "JJ/AJ will want a trade threads." I understand people are upset with this team this year, but I'm not going to feel sorry for any millionaire player(s).
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I believe you can keep franchising but the salary increases start to get obscene.
Twice only.
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Compete for what? #1 overall pick in the draft?
compete for the playoffs. looks, im just as pissed as everyone else around here. its been a long year.

we clearly need a coaching overhaul. BUT, the reason we are all so upset is that we know this team has a lot of talent.

With a good draft, we can cure a lot of problems. We have a good talent base. Far better than a lot of teams. AJ realizes that. Watt does as well. We've been shot in the foot for 3+ years with injuries, but that isn't an excuse anymore.

My point in my post was that AJ nor Watt will demand or ask for a trade. We have the pieces to compete next year. You can turn it around in the NFL in a year or two.
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I see a lot of people dismissing it, but if houston doesn't get a legit coach in here next season that immediately competes for a Super Bowl I would not be shocked at all if Dre asks to be traded to a contender.

Dude is at the end of his career. He's not going to want to sit through a rebuilding period.
You'll know that he's very close or there when he goes public like Reed did.
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compete for the playoffs. looks, im just as pissed as everyone else around here. its been a long year.

we clearly need a coaching overhaul. BUT, the reason we are all so upset is that we know this team has a lot of talent.

With a good draft, we can cure a lot of problems. We have a good talent base. Far better than a lot of teams. AJ realizes that. Watt does as well. We've been shot in the foot for 3+ years with injuries, but that isn't an excuse anymore.

My point in my post was that AJ nor Watt will demand or ask for a trade. We have the pieces to compete next year. You can turn it around in the NFL in a year or two.
I've heard this for 10 years, thank you.
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I've heard this for 10 years, thank you.

the old oilers fans have been hearing this since the 70's LOL
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I've heard this for 10 years, thank you.
so whats your plan?

f it? trade all our players, even our best players, for 3rd, 4th round picks?
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Can we please stop with these "JJ/AJ will want a trade threads." I understand people are upset with this team this year, but I'm not going to feel sorry for any millionaire player(s).
Is anyone asking for you or anyone's sadness or sentiment? No. OP is simply saying AJ may demand a trade to get out of this mess. Not sure why income has anything to do with that statement.
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I've heard this for 10 years, thank you.
But that's been proven with other teams that have the balls to make the tough decision.
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This team sux...Why everyone is making this about Schaub is beyond me.... We switched qb's 4 games ago and got the same results we had when was starting. Schaub comes back in for 1 qtr. and all people can talk about is what Schaub didn't do to win a game that we shouldn't have even been up against it in. If Keenum handles the blitzing even a cintilla better than he has been...schaub's not in the game....period....
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This team sux...Why everyone is making this about Schaub is beyond me.... We switched qb's 4 games ago and got the same results we had when was starting. Schaub comes back in for 1 qtr. and all people can talk about is what Schaub didn't do to win a game that we shouldn't have even been up against it in. If Keenum handles the blitzing even a cintilla better than he has been...schaub's not in the game....period....
so what does that tell you?

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its the coaching staf particularly kubiak that needs to handle the blitz better.

You have to call plays that beat the blitz, not help.
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Doesn't happen this year, they will want out in the off-season.
Watt isn't going any where.

Andre is another question. If the team is in full rebuild mode with a new GM AND Coach it could be reasonable that they trade him for a high pick. How many years does he have left realistically playing at the level he still does?

As for Watt, he's not going any where anytime soon.
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so whats your plan?

f it? trade all our players, even our best players, for 3rd, 4th round picks?
Classically turn arounds occur with changes at the top, not wholesale changes with players.
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hope to God, jewish, muslim and evrything else, that watt sails for another team.
i do not want him to go down the andre johnson road of playing for a forever mediocre franchise.


it all starts with a paltry owner.
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