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Keep Kubiak & Smith 13 11.21%
Fire Kubiak & Smith 77 66.38%
Fire Kubiak & keep Smith 22 18.97%
Keep Kubiak & fire Smith 2 1.72%
Other 2 1.72%
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Old 11-13-2013   #41
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He should have the most influence. Kubiak and Phillips should have opinions and be able to be over ruled.
Should, but rumor says Kubiak bought in Smith and that suggests otherwise
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Fire all the coaches, start over.
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If they were in Seattle or any other NFL town not named "Houston" they would already be looking for a new job. Kubiak would be so far removed he'd already have been fired from his next job.
Wow. Very, very, very, very true.

Damn, where's that REP button? LOL.

By now, we should be ingrained in the third or forth year with our third head coach, and be darn-near undefeated. Instead, we are in our 8TH year with our current coach, and STILL waiting for him to get it together.

As I have said, the Texans as an organization are clearly in an NFL bubble. For some odd reason, they think it takes 8 years to build a solid team, and that's just not true.

Even more embarrassing, we had a window in our division where a top shelf QB (Manning) and a good head coach (Fisher) left, and both teams rebuilt. Instead of taking advantage of that window and REALLY establishing ourselves as a dominant team, we settled. And now, we've blown that window within our division, and the Colts have over taken us - again.

Shaking my damn head...
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

I have the feeling the problem is more on the OC side, I think that could be enough.

Still, if we would have to go for a full clean-up I won't complain.

Just make sure to not pick someone as-bad-as-if-not-even-worse than kubiak/smith
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

You need to include Wade in there also.

He is just as lost on the sidelines as all the other coaches.
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

So if the Texans clean house, does that mean Dan Reeves comes back to tell McNair what to do or do you trust Mr Bob to select the quality replacements?
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

went with both, since the poll was specifically to the two.

IMHO, i'd like to see a new GM, who then hires his own coaches. If that new GM wants to rehire them, I'd be shocked, but no way you replace a GM and have them be forced to carry existing coaching.
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So if the Texans clean house, does that mean Dan Reeves comes back to tell McNair what to do or do you trust Mr Bob to select the quality replacements?
Considering Dan Reeves told them they could win with Carr, I say forget Dan Reeves. Considering he did that because it's what McNair wanted to hear, I don't know what ta tell ya.
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

Hopefully McNair has a list of GM's. Probably not though. If you are going to get rid of both bring in "interim" GM / consultant to evaluate situation. Hire GM and then get head coach. Typical Texan way is to do reverse. Decision one way or the other should be made now and action taken.

What if Kubiak comes out and says due to health concerns I will not be Head coach next year but would like to be OC. Feelings?
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Hopefully McNair has a list of GM's. Probably not though. If you are going to get rid of both bring in "interim" GM / consultant to evaluate situation. Hire GM and then get head coach. Typical Texan way is to do reverse. Decision one way or the other should be made now and action taken.

What if Kubiak comes out and says due to health concerns I will not be Head coach next year but would like to be OC. Feelings?
How does one appoint themselves as the offensive co-ordinator?
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Just start over! 8 years of crap is enough!
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I'm all for cleaning house. Texans need to be a Top-down administration. We don't need the Coach picking his GM going forward.
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

at the beginning of this season, i would've said keep smith...but in analyzing everything as of late...I think smith needs to go too...we just need to clean house.
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Whatever these posters are smoking (Beer and Metal, Borowicz50, Brisco_County, Corrosion, escrimador, Hottoddie, IBleedTexans, Maddict5, Marcus, Playoffs , Scooter, Sigma) I want some of it. Puff puff pass.
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I don't think we've drafted all that bad really. I think that there are a number of former Texans out there that other teams are just fine with. It's true that we don't really coach anyone up. That's strange considering how the old Capers regime was also guilty of that. Makes you wonder if it is something about the franchise itself but that seems unlikely.

Lots of teams don't draft as well as people think they do but they stay on top (looking at you Patriots) because they still find guys and get the most out of the ones that they do hit on.

Still I think Smith should go along with Kubiak. like Vinny said it's a very backwards dynamic to have your HC hand pick your GM. He might as well just be the GM if that's how it works. I think we'd be better off starting over. While I don't think Rick Smith has been as bad as many do I don't think he's any kind of special either. He's been competent.
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How does one appoint themselves as the offensive co-ordinator?
Ummm, this is the Houston Texans and things like that are strangely possible in this place?

That's all I got.
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Hit the reboot button with this franchise. Smith and Kubiak need to go.
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At the very least, Kubiak needs to be fired. I would prefer both.
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