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Keep Kubiak & Smith 13 11.21%
Fire Kubiak & Smith 77 66.38%
Fire Kubiak & keep Smith 22 18.97%
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Old 11-12-2013   #21
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

I voted 'fire Kubiak, keep Smith'. Here's the reasoning: they've both got to go, but there's no one at the club who has a clue who to hire (witness the Dan Reeves consultancy fiasco last time around), so Fire Kubiak and get Smith to hire his replacement. Give Smith one more draft / FA and if things don't drastically improve next season, fire him too.
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i'll be a lonely sunshiner. i have enough confidence in kubiak's talents to keep him, especially if we decide to go with keenum. smith i dont have strong feelings about in either direction.
You do realize that his "talents" have gotten us a 2-7 record with a talented squad, don't you?


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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

well aware of it. and hopefully this epic fail of a season will spark some changes within the organization. i dont believe that kubiak needs to be one of those changes.
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

I vote to fire them both, but I would be ok if Smith stayed.
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well aware of it. and hopefully this epic fail of a season will spark some changes within the organization. i dont believe that kubiak needs to be one of those changes.
Wow.


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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

Fire both. I am not sure why some think Smith would be OK to keep. His HUGE mistakes erase any very small success he has had. Don't want to hear how he structured MS contract so that the hit would not be very bad if we needed to release. We should have never extended. Don't want to hear how Mcnair made the decision on Reed. A real GM would have over ruled. Really would like to hear what Smith has done to warrant even thinking about keeping. What player has he traded and got the best end of the deal?
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I voted 'fire Kubiak, keep Smith'. Here's the reasoning: they've both got to go, but there's no one at the club who has a clue who to hire (witness the Dan Reeves consultancy fiasco last time around), so Fire Kubiak and get Smith to hire his replacement. Give Smith one more draft / FA and if things don't drastically improve next season, fire him too.


How would Smith know who to hire? Kubiak is the one who brought him on board.
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Don't want to hear how Mcnair made the decision on Reed. A real GM would have over ruled.
Not real familiar with chain of command? Owner trumps GM.
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Hopefully both so i can do my best Mel Gibson impression

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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

I was previously on board with keeping Smith and maybe Wade Phillips + defensive coaches (a la Steelers and their DC), but the way this ship is spinning out of control they all need to be gone and we will probably need to burn the grass after the season is done to get the funk out of Reliant and off the returning players.
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

I voted to keep Smith. Not because I think he deserves it, but I think he survives the culling.

If he gets fired as well, though, I want to see them bring in a GM and let him find a coach. I don't want my GM hired by the coach this time around.
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What I would like to see happen (entire new organization) is opposite of what I think will happen (everyones stays, gets an extension, and a puppy for Xmas).
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Default Re: Kubiak/Smith: Keep them or fire them?

After some soul searching, I chose both. I hate wholesale change, but Smith gets the flak for poor drafts (how can you hit on more UDFA's than 1st-3 rounders? By my count anyways), so Smith needs to go.

Kubiak is too damned loyal to players even to the detriment of the team. He may be a great OC, but a HC needs more objectivity and do what's best for the team not the player. If he'd accept a demotion, I'd consider keeping him.

Wade Phillips needs to go. I've seen more than enough of 10 yard cushions in man coverage. I've seen enough of his lost look on the sideline. Actually, he's about right on schedule for a change. 3 and out is pretty normal for Wade.

Marciano needed to go years ago. 'Nuf said.

I'm not sure what I hope for in the future, other than many Super Bowl wins. I can't get excited about hot college coaches nor do I want another hot NFL coordinator to get the job. IMO, Gruden is a joke, so I guess it's Cowher or nothing. Cowher has always reminded me of a child molester for some reason. Maybe it's my hatred of Pittsburgh, but I've heard others echo the same sentiment.
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What goes on at Texans practices?

What does Gary and Rick watch?


All they see are their ego's. If Kubiak and Smith were in Seattle there would be no Russell Wilson.
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Ahhhhh, I'm starting to feel better already. Welcome to the dark side.

What these poor souls don't realize is that Kubiak is going to waive all of the people wanting him fired & give all his supporters seats on the front rowwwww & the cheerleader of their choice.
Do I get my choice or is it pot luck?

I don't care...I'M IN!
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Fire both. Rick cant properly balance a check book
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I think Smith has done decent in the draft and FA.

How much influence he has vs Kubiak & Wade I don't know.

I think Kubiak has gone stale and needs to be replaced, my only if to that is if the QB change has freshened things, I'd keep him too.
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I think Smith has done decent in the draft and FA.

How much influence he has vs Kubiak & Wade I don't know.

I think Kubiak has gone stale and needs to be replaced, my only if to that is if the QB change has freshened things, I'd keep him too.
He should have the most influence. Kubiak and Phillips should have opinions and be able to be over ruled.
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All they see are their ego's. If Kubiak and Smith were in Seattle there would be no Russell Wilson.
If they were in Seattle or any other NFL town not named "Houston" they would already be looking for a new job. Kubiak would be so far removed he'd already have been fired from his next job.
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