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Old 11-29-2013   #401
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Just got report from source, Jon Gruden at IAH......hmm, sightseeing day after Thanksgiving?.....

Please, say IT AIN'T SO! No Chucky here. Please...
Considering that IAH is one of the largest airports on the planet earth, this is not surprising. Dude could have been connecting to another flight.


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Why do Gruden fans act like this helps him?

I guess Callahan was a better coach than Gruden since he got Gruden's team further than Gruden.
Not even close, the Raiders were knocking on the door when Gruden left. Hell, if not for the stupid Tuck rule, I think Gruden would have gotten there in Oak as well
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A couple of years ago I talked with a guy who played under Gruden at Tampa Bay. He said that most of the players "managed to put up with him...and that's about it. He was kind of a hard-ass."

He went on to say "we wanted to like him, because he knew football. And he could have a good sense of humor. But he was really full of himself."

Gruden wouldn't be high on my wish list. But I do think his time at ESPN would help him if he coaches again. Might make him less of a "hard-ass."
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You would think we would have learned change is not always good.

1st change under Gruden - Michael Vick.
At 2-9 change is not only a good thing, it's necessary if you want a winning team. A hardass would be a good fit for this team. Rather than the players coach softy/country club mentality that currently exists.

No to Jon Gruden, Yes to Jay Gruden, Jay has more fire and is an offensive mind, as well as being a hardass.

I garuntee you one thing Jay Gruden wouldn't be having an elective surgery during the combine after a glorious non playoff 9-7 season.
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I garuntee you one thing Jay Gruden wouldn't be having an elective surgery during the combine after a glorious non playoff 9-7 season.
Man you go straight to spin everything once you decide not to like someone. Clearly you can guarantee no such thing. Calling Kubiak's two surgeries elective is a joke. Correcting sleep apnea is not cosmetic surgery. And duh, surgery would best be done in the off-season.
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Man you go straight to spin everything once you decide not to like someone. Clearly you can guarantee no such thing. Calling Kubiak's two surgeries elective is a joke. Correcting sleep apnea is not cosmetic surgery. And duh, surgery would best be done in the off-season.
On that subject , I wonder if his one condition somehow led to the other ? I don't think anyone has ever questioned Kubiak's work ethic .
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Looks like the typical Kubiak apologists are still reaching to make it seem like this guy hasn't been a total embarrassing disaster here for the last 8 years. I find it amusing that people actually credit him for the first playoff season when it was Wade's defense that caused that all season when Yates was throwing check downs all season long and there was hardly any offense. Hell, if it wasn't for Mcnair Kubiak would have still kept Smith for another year. Lol!

Sorry guys, but all of those arguments for Kubiak over the years have all but failed over and over again. We're a worse team now then what we were in Dom Capers last season. I always found it funny that Kubiak's disciples in here would bash Capers on and on, but at the same time excuse and put Gary on a pedastool. Capers had some horrid seasons, but he had Carr and company and an expansion team he inherited with no Oline. Kubiak's had a ton of talent for several years and ran this team into the ground as if he was driving a jet 500 miles per hour into the ground.
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Looks like the typical Kubiak apologists are still reaching to make it seem like this guy hasn't been a total embarrassing disaster here for the last 8 years. I find it amusing that people actually credit him for the first playoff season when it was Wade's defense that caused that all season when Yates was throwing check downs all season long and there was hardly any offense. Hell, if it wasn't for Mcnair Kubiak would have still kept Smith for another year. Lol!

Sorry guys, but all of those arguments for Kubiak over the years have all but failed over and over again. We're a worse team now then what we were in Dom Capers last season. I always found it funny that Kubiak's disciples in here would bash Capers on and on, but at the same time excuse and put Gary on a pedastool. Capers had some horrid seasons, but he had Carr and company and an expansion team he inherited with no Oline. Kubiak's had a ton of talent for several years and ran this team into the ground as if he was driving a jet 500 miles per hour into the ground.
This is such hateful bile... Exactly what defies logic. After taking that same disaster under capers and starting 0-4 with them in 2006, Texan fans did not root for a losing team in any season other than 2010 and this season. While those are not championship credentials, it also isn't "driving a jet 500 miles per hour into the ground". Also, why do you need everyone to hate Kubiak? Nobody is arguing for Kubiak to stay next year. So, what is this obsession with "apologists"? I have been marked as a Kubiak apologist, which is fine, but even I have blamed this disastrous season primarily on Kubiak's miscalculations and coaching limitations. So, what is it that you need exactly?
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"@TravHaneyESPN: In recent days, I'd heard Aggies were more concerned about losing Sumlin to Texans than USC."
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Just what the fans want another Aggie who has never even won a confrence championship in COLLEGE.
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Just what the fans want another Aggie who has never even won a confrence championship in COLLEGE.
My impression of Sumlin is that he could be a very good NFL coach... I have concerns about how quickly he would successfully adapt his offense to the NFL. Mostly, though, I worry about what his defensive staff would look like. The day he would be hired, though, I would primarily experience optimism.
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Man you go straight to spin everything once you decide not to like someone. Clearly you can guarantee no such thing. Calling Kubiak's two surgeries elective is a joke. Correcting sleep apnea is not cosmetic surgery. And duh, surgery would best be done in the off-season.
The offseason, after the combine.

I cant garuntee anything. But do you think Gruden would've had the surgery? Be honest.

How did I spin anything? Nice try counselor. Sorry the Gary thing didn't work out. Both of us wanted it to work out. Only one of us are being honest with ourselves.
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A crawl on ABC, just said that sumlin has agreed to a new 6 year contract with the Aggies
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My impression of Sumlin is that he could be a very good NFL coach... I have concerns about how quickly he would successfully adapt his offense to the NFL. Mostly, though, I worry about what his defensive staff would look like. The day he would be hired, though, I would primarily experience optimism.
Good for you and another 8 yrs of mental masturbation.

It doesn't bother you that Sumlin has never won anything despite having 2 of the greatest college QB's in NCAA history. (He didn't recruit either of them)

You really want Sumlin to lead a pro team? Give me Jay Gruden or Zimmer, people that have proven themselves in the NFL. As opposed to a guy that hasn't even proven he can win big at the college level.

Maybe winning isn't your, or BoB's #1 priority.
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A crawl on ABC, just said that sumlin has agreed to a new 6 year contract with the Aggies
Great news

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The offseason, after the combine.

I cant garuntee anything. But do you think Gruden would've had the surgery? Be honest.

How did I spin anything? Nice try counselor. Sorry the Gary thing didn't work out. Both of us wanted it to work out. Only one of us are being honest with ourselves.
I honestly don't know what Gruden would do and neither do you. You claiming to know is spinning and being dishonest with yourself.
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I honestly don't know what Gruden would do and neither do you. You claiming to know is spinning and being dishonest with yourself.
Great rebuttal,

How many other HC's do you know that have missed the combine for an elective surgery? History may be on my side on this one.
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Great rebuttal,

How many other HC's do you know that have missed the combine for an elective surgery? History may be on my side on this one.
First off, not all HCs attend the combine. History is definitely on my side on this one. Every year there is reporting on which HCs are at the combine and at which sessions.

Second, I have no idea and once again neither do you. You are making things up.
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