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Old 11-10-2013   #21
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There was a leak in Dec 2010 that Kubiak was gone too and it never happened.
At that time the head coach was not coming off of a mini stroke, and there was no criticism of the interim head coach's defensive methods.
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Interesting timing, to say the least. There is plenty of blame to go around the entire franchise but I just don't see them letting Kubes go unless it is for purely health reasons...
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I have zero real problems with Rick Smith. That guy has done an amazing job over the years. Of course some moves have panned out and others haven't. This is real life.
What exactly is Rick's job?

He's part of the problem, not as much as Gary, but still part of the problem.

The only time Rick has run a draft and went to the combine on his own was the 2010 draft. (Gary decided to skip the combine for an elective surgery. Sleep apnea) The KJ draft, it was a disaster. This is why I've got little faith in Rick's ability to find and procure talent.
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I blame Rick Smith. Shelling out big bucks to extend Matt Schaub, Arian Foster and even Brian Cushing, when he didn't have to. We should have waited until the off-season. If any of them leave then so be it. We've lost good players in free agency before like Mario Williams. Now we have to restructure all of those contracts next off-season. We may release Matt Schaub after June 1.
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On my phone so can't paste the link but there's a slightly fuller article on nfl.com which says the frustration is at a lack of in-game rotation, on the dline in particular leading to them being gassed late in games. Teams are beating us on 4th quarter comebacks consistently so it's hard to disagree. Then again how good is the talent behind the starters??
I told everyone last year, having a smallish NT and no depth on the DL was going to hurt us. But most everyone wanted that elusive #2 WR.

Still having said that I like our options going forward. The early rounds of this coming draft is going to present is with some very interesting choices.
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I blame Rick Smith. Shelling out big bucks to extend Matt Schaub, Arian Foster and even Brian Cushing, when he didn't have to. We should have waited until the off-season. If any of them leave then so be it. We've lost good players in free agency before like Mario Williams. Now we have to restructure all of those contracts next off-season. We may release Matt Schaub after June 1.
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And I dont think Rick is all of that good at drafting outside the 1st rd. That's why the Texans are so lacking in depth.

If Rick gets credit for UDFA Foster, does he get credit for UDFA Keenum?
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The interesting part of Rapoport's report is that he said the Texans' front office is "a bit frustrated" with Kubiak and the rest of his coaching staff.

The frustration stems from coaches having too much draft input...
Well the "front office" is Rick Smith, so this tells me the owner has somehow told Smith to follow the coaches draft wishes. Which makes a little bit of sense to me in light of the character & injury challenged draft picks that are uncharacteristic of past drafts.

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...keeping stars on the field too long. Rapoport elaborated on the last point saying that the front office believes the lack of a defensive-line rotation leads to wearing down late in games.
This smells to be as much about Arian Foster's 400+ carries last year as it does about defensive rotation. Both are valid points, imo.

Everybody and their dog said we'd be paying the price for running Foster into the ground.
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And I dont think Rick is all of that good at drafting outside the 1st rd. That's why the Texans are so lacking in depth.

If Rick gets credit for UDFA Foster, does he get credit for UDFA Keenum?
I remember reading an article where Foster described the UDFA process. He only signed with the Texans because they offered a 2 year contract. It's not like we thought much of him really. I don't doubt Keenum is in the same boat. We look at these guys as JAGs. If they play well, they stay on the PS or if they're lucky on the active roster.

I don't think much thought really goes into it other than we need X running backs, and we need Y LBs and they sign em up.
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I heard the other day where 20% of the players in the league are UDFA so more than people want to admit teams actually find players this way.
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Interesting time for this to be published, especially with an organization that rarely has leaks.

Change is coming.
It is interesting... I don't know what to make of it.


Kubiak is the F.O. He can't be frustrated with himself, & even if he were, he's the guy to fix it.
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This seems a lot like the rumors that came out in 2010. The FO is frustrated with Kubes, but the front office is Rick Smith and Gary hired him. Does this make any sense at all ?
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Interesting time for this to be published, especially with an organization that rarely has leaks.

Change is coming.
That's exactly what I thought. For this organization this is how something like this begins. The only leaks the Texans ever have are intentional, planned leaks. I almost feel like I did the week Chris Palmer got sent packing. It's like the frustration is finally getting to the guys who make decisions.
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I heard the other day where 20% of the players in the league are UDFA so more than people want to admit teams actually find players this way.
Teams get 7 draft picks a year. with no misses and all re-signs it would take 8 years to fill out the 53 man roster. Pure numbers dictate that low priority positions and depth have to come from somewhere. The true wins in UDFA are getting starters or superstar from the large of junk that is mostly there.

foster is a huge win for the Texans and if he maintains anything close to what he is doing Keenum can be another.
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We need some leaks about Joe Marciano, man.
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Wow ... they are also tired of Cabbage patch dolls , Beanie Babies and hula hoops .
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I hope this is true because I hate the way this team is coached. I will still watch them but I'll never be truly excited until Gary is gone.
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I hope this is true because I hate the way this team is coached. I will still watch them but I'll never be truly excited until Gary is gone.
You won't be truly excited by a superbowl win with Gary at the helm?

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meh.....whatever. I'll believe change when I see it.
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There was a leak in Dec 2010 that Kubiak was gone too and it never happened.
Do you remember who reported that?
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I agree with this. The Texans run a 3-4, but have never drafted an impact nose tackle. They are extremely weak at LB for a team that puts an extra one ont he field at any given time. They are weak on OL for a team that is supposedly more run oriented than most others in the NFL. Whatever you think about the talent they let go, it's evident they didn't have a sufficient plan to replace that talent. If you draft guys that work out, you either have to keep them or plan for their replacement. The Texans FO has done a crappy job of that, IMO.

As for the cap ... well, I'll just say that Ed Reed makes about the same as Quin this year, so yeah, that cap number looks great. LOL
This what I am talking about, fans making claims without giving entire picture. Reed's
2014 cap hit is $3.2 m BUT he can be cut after 2013 season with only $1.3 m dead money opening up about $4 m in cap savings. He was a risk but a relatively cheap one.

Quin 2014 base is only $1 million BECAUSE he also got a signing bonus of $5.25 m giving him $6.25 in his pocket; cap just over $2 million. 2014 & 2015 his cap hit jumps to $5 m but has $6.25 m dead money if cut after 2013 and $4.2 m dead money after 2014.

Quin had 85 T 2010 77 T 2011 and 84 T in 2012 as a Texan.

In 2013 with Detroit Quin has 28 tackles in 8 games that project to 56, his worst ever season. He does have 2 INTs. Reed in two less games has 16 tackles. No I am not pleased with Reed but Quin does not thrill me either.

I was not a Posey fan but fair to say if he had not been injured, we probably would not have drafted Hopkins. We now have seemingly a very good group of receivers. I too want a big Nose and a ILB and have mocked them. However with the other needs, Texans have gone at those needs rather than what you and I want. Team did this with Oline using a 7th on Newton and this addresses your first comment about OL. Texans are not just a run team and the players selected have to play well in this ZBS. Those guys are usually not first rounders. Where would we be if Newton, Brennan Williams and Q had not been injured? Just part of the game.
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