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Old 11-04-2013   #1
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He has contributed largely to the demise of this team.
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He has contributed largely to the demise of this team.
TD was on McCain. He should have been deep on that post if they were in quarters, as it appeared.
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TD was on McCain. He should have been deep on that post if they were in quarters, as it appeared.
He gives up a lot of 3rd down catches, just like McCain.
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Our secondary is a mess. Everybody's game has just seemed
to drop off a notch..

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He should have knocked away the 2pt conversion.
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TD was on McCain. He should have been deep on that post if they were in quarters, as it appeared.
Why the hell is this guy still on the team? If he is not giving up pass interference or holding penalties, he is giving up TDs....

embarrassing to say the least...
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This thread should be about McCain. He is clearly getting targeted. His only positive asset is supposed to be his speed and that is rarely showing on the field.
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Our secondary is a mess. Everybody's game has just seemed
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TJ
I think its the philosophy of the secondary - they play ~7 yards off in man coverage giving receivers a free release all too often. If you are gonna play man , you gotta knock them off their stride in that first 5 yards.

This also contributes to why our pass rush always seems a half a step late , QB's have that initial cushion and use it to get the ball out in a hurry.
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This thread should be about McCain. He is clearly getting targeted. His only positive asset is supposed to be his speed and that is rarely showing on the field.
Joseph was tore up all game too. McCain and Joseph were both abused last night. They're both in every play of this Hilton highlight clip.

Wasn't it Forbes that had Joseph the most overrated and overpaid? Who ever it was, it's becoming difficult to disagree with them. Plus, his lackadaisical tackling attempts drive me nuts

Oh, let's not forget about groveling over Reed in the offseason. He went from picking daisies in center field to only being used in packages.

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TD was on McCain. He should have been deep on that post if they were in quarters, as it appeared.
They showed it last night and that was on Joseph.

There was another receiver that threatened the deep middle and McCain had to react to that. Joseph just flat out got burned.
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I think its the philosophy of the secondary - they play ~7 yards off in man coverage giving receivers a free release all too often. If you are gonna play man , you gotta knock them off their stride in that first 5 yards.
Risky. If the pass rush doesn't get to the quarterback, you get burned for six.
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Our secondary is playing like hot garbage right now. So frustrating. McCain is useless, and Im not sure what's up with JJo. I just hope there are some decent FAs available this offseason because we need serious help in the secondary
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Our secondary is playing like hot garbage right now. So frustrating. McCain is useless, and Im not sure what's up with JJo. I just hope there are some decent FAs available this offseason because we need serious help in the secondary
Our secondary only seems like it's playing like garbage now, and that's because the people up front are not getting enough pressure. Every once in awhile, they get a sack or hurry a throw. But there are other times, he has all day long to throw.

But this is always a never ending debate. There are some who say the secondary is only as good as the people up front, and then there are others who think the secondary doesn't need any help. Why that is, I have no idea.
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Our secondary is playing like hot garbage right now. So frustrating. McCain is useless, and Im not sure what's up with JJo. I just hope there are some decent FAs available this offseason because we need serious help in the secondary
I think age and injuries are finally catching up. Look at what happened to Asomugha, one of the best shut down corners in the league, turns 30 and then BAM! hot garbage...

For athletes, for the most part, when it goes, it goes quick and very rarely does it come back...
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Default Re: Jslow gotta go

As wade talked, we were not in man, we were in zone on that catch and I don't think jj had the deep coverage for the play. It was on mccain again.
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As wade talked, we were not in man, we were in zone on that catch and I don't think jj had the deep coverage for the play. It was on mccain again.
We were in Quarters. Joseph was supposed to carry his man deep. Hilton ran right by him.

McCain is not absolved in this game. He is routinely picked on and is a weak link in the defense. That one play, however, was on Joseph.
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This thread should be about McCain. He is clearly getting targeted. His only positive asset is supposed to be his speed and that is rarely showing on the field.
Agreed that McCain is the worst of the bunch, but this year nobody is showing up as a legitimate starter in this league. We get torched constantly for first down after first down. Jackson has developed a knack for trying to knock people out by going to the head, maybe we can make him a safety. DB will be a glaring need in the draft.
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who would have thought kareem would be our best player in the secondary 2 years ago?
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odd, i actually thought mccain had a pretty good game and joseph was the one being picked on. the deep ball was on joseph. mccain turned a fraction late for the 2pt conversion, but he appeared to me to have very tight coverage most of the game and disrupted several attempts. i remarked a few times during the game that it looked like the old mccain was back.
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odd, i actually thought mccain had a pretty good game and joseph was the one being picked on. the deep ball was on joseph. mccain turned a fraction late for the 2pt conversion, but he appeared to me to have very tight coverage most of the game and disrupted several attempts. i remarked a few times during the game that it looked like the old mccain was back.
I'd like to see a gif if that play. Sure looked like McCain had that coverage. Looked like zone coverage to me.
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