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Old 11-07-2013   #41
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You are going to have to link where Phillips has said he preferred smaller NTs. There are posts with link in this forum where Wade has pointed to previous NTs of different sizes that he played. He stated he takes what he has and tries to make them better. You can also say for every "lighter" Nose there are dozens who do not perform well. I think it depends on the fight in the dog rather than dog in fight. We have seen how Nose players have performed for Texans like Cody and Mitchell and I am ready to try a different approach. We get impact on the QB from Ninja, Watt and occasionally someone else but we need a way to shut down running game before the back gets past the LOS. Our Dline and LBs are not getting it done & why I am focusing on that in my mock.
I think if you review Wade's first press conference after being hired as Houston's DC I believe IIRC you will hear Wade discussing how he wants to attack the football and how he has been successful with a smaller 1 gap penetrating NT and he doesn't need a monster 2 gap NT in his system.

I understand what you're saying but science says that most 340 lb NT do not have the physical stamina to play 1000+ snaps a season and on average are limited to 300-400 snaps played effectively. Of course there are exceptions to every rule Wilfork and Ngata being two.
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I think if you review Wade's first press conference after being hired as Houston's DC I believe IIRC you will hear Wade discussing how he wants to attack the football and how he has been successful with a smaller 1 gap penetrating NT and he doesn't need a monster 2 gap NT in his system.
Key word in there being "need." Wade was being asked about the absence of a big body on the roster and responded with he had worked with both to success.

FYI - before you go off on a tangent, I am not a proponent of big NTs.
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I think if you review Wade's first press conference after being hired as Houston's DC I believe IIRC you will hear Wade discussing how he wants to attack the football and how he has been successful with a smaller 1 gap penetrating NT and he doesn't need a monster 2 gap NT in his system.

I understand what you're saying but science says that most 340 lb NT do not have the physical stamina to play 1000+ snaps a season and on average are limited to 300-400 snaps played effectively. Of course there are exceptions to every rule Wilfork and Ngata being two.
Wade had Jammal Williams IIRC at San Diego and he was a big guy . I think Wade's defense isn't much to write home about . If you get inside the 20 yd line , you're going to score . Could that be a symptom of having to light of guys in the middle .
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Key word in there being "need." Wade was being asked about the absence of a big body on the roster and responded with he had worked with both to success.

FYI - before you go off on a tangent, I am not a proponent of big NTs.
Big , strong guys who can move , don't last long in the draft . The last being Poe .
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Big , strong guys who can move , don't last long in the draft . The last being Poe .
There are only a handful of these guy's in the league ... everyone else is looking for them.
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There are only a handful of these guy's in the league ... everyone else is looking for them.
Yep

I think Nix can be that type of player.

Look at what Star has done for Carolinas pass rush this yr compared to last yr, even though he doesn't have a bunch of sacks. Same with Poe and KC.

I can only dream of how good the pass rush would be if Watt was next to Nix, with Murphy and Mercilus rushing from the outside.

If Nix falls to the Texans picking him would be a no brainer. Despite being a huge man he can move. I would trade up for Murphy into the bottom of the 1st and instatly have the pass rush the team has been lacking for yrs.

Like I stated before the Texans wont be able to fix everything in one draft. But getting JJ some help and finding a RT would make me happy.

Murphy will be a huge upgrade over Ninja. IMHO
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There are only a handful of these guy's in the league ... everyone else is looking for them.
Yep ... you know what Vince Wolfork , BJ Raji , Lynval Joseph , Haloti Gnata , and Casey Hampton all have in common , besides being at least 330 lbs ?
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what the coach said......

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Wade had Jammal Williams IIRC at San Diego and he was a big guy . I think Wade's defense isn't much to write home about . If you get inside the 20 yd line , you're going to score . Could that be a symptom of having to light of guys in the middle.
It's a symptom of playing man coverage with inferior DB's, IMO. This defense is usually pretty good when it comes to ypc against and rush TD's against. We get scorched in the redzone because we have only have 2-3 guys who are capable of matching up in man coverage. Teams exploit that endlessly, as well have all witnessed.
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The latest revision to the mock:

1. Johnny "TEXAN" Manziel, QB Texas A&M
2. Jeremiah Attachou, OLB, Ga Tech
3. Brandon Sherff, RT, Iowa
4. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
5. Marcus Williams, CB, North Dakota State
6. Storm Johnson, RB, Central Florida
7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas

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The latest revision to the mock:

1. Johnny "TEXAN" Manziel, QB Texas A&M
2. Jeremiah Attachou, OLB, Ga Tech
3. Brandon Sherff, RT, Iowa
4. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
5. Marcus Williams, CB, North Dakota State
6. Storm Johnson, RB, Central Florida
7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas
I just finished watching Iowa vs Purdue tape, Brandon Scherff is unlikely to make it until Rd 3. Moving him up to RD 2 and a Top 40 pick and sliding Attachou back to RD 3 Top 75 pick. Lynch played well vs Auburn, Storm Johnson ran for 122/8.9 ypc.

1. Johnny "TEXAN" Manziel, QB Texas A&M
2. Brandon Sherff, RT, Iowa
3. Jeremiah Attachou, OLB, Ga Tech
4. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
5. Marcus Williams, CB, North Dakota State
6. Storm Johnson, RB, Central Florida
7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas
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If the draft were today, I would revise my mock. Mainly because the Texans today have the 1st pick instead of the 5th.

1. Blake Bortles, QB, 6'4", 230, UCF
2. Aaron Donald, DE, 6'0" 285, Pitt
3. Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, 6'3", 242, GA Tech
4. Billy Turner, OT, 6'5", 318, NDSU - contingent on 25+ 225 reps
5. Marcus Williams, CB, 5'11" 197, NDSU - contingent on a sub 4.5
6. Trey Hopkins, LG, 6'4", 305, UT
7. Crockett Gilmore, TE, 6'6", 255, CSU - because name is perfect for a Texan.

If Bortles returns to school I am all in for a trade back.

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