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Who cares if they smoked pot? The NBA couldn't field a team if they got rid of all the pot smokers.
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Who cares if they smoked pot? The NBA couldn't field a team if they got rid of all the pot smokers.
Maybe the NFL would care? Maybe?
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Stupid reason, legalize it.

However also stupid timing decision for the players.
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Who cares if they smoked pot? The NBA couldn't field a team if they got rid of all the pot smokers.
It has absolutely nothing to do with caring about smoking pot.. it's about discipline. They were told they could not do "exhibit A" and they still played hanky panky in a bathroom.

This has nothing to do with pot.. since we've already given players chances on this team with drug issues and our owner already came out and said he'd give a player who has a drug record a chance. These players obviously had a previous strike against them and this wreaks of a "That's it, straw breaks back" offense.

I was high as hell on Wood (he looked like Foster 2.0).. Jefferson showed a LOT of potential..even drew Jason Taylor comparisons during this camp. Montgomery always looked like a fat lazy worthless turd, so lets leave him out of this discussion.

I don't care if a team snatches these players up and they become HOF type of players somewhere else.. this is a lessen they needed to learn and it's obvious that they need to grow as men and in the future if this makes them better people, than the Texans made the right decision today.
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ESPN is reporting it was weed; Sources: Pot reason Texans cut 3 LINK

To which I say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bHrJu72_Jg
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Weird how some think its pot but there are people saying that when they walked into the room they were smoking a cigar. Who knows...maybe that was masking the other smell.

"But, but, but..everyone loves Kubes and they would never do anything to hurt the team and turn on him"
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Weird how some think its pot but there are people saying that when they walked into the room they were smoking a cigar. Who knows...maybe that was masking the other smell.

"But, but, but..everyone loves Kubes and they would never do anything to hurt the team and turn on him"
If rolled right you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a swisher sweet loaded with weed or a simple cigar.

This has nothing to do with Kubes or how the team feels about him, that kind of conspiracy theory would be giving these three dumbasses too much credit.
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Except when you have to pee really bad. Those are brutal.
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Except when you have to pee really bad. Those are brutal.
LMAO.. wow, I think we should probably change the topic

But yeah I agree with you. I just don't know if this is the "yellow" brick road we should trek down
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I've spent a good chunk of my life at house parties and hotel parties, and I can tell you this timeless truth about kids: If they're smogging up a small space, it isn't tobacco.

When Kubiak said that he looked at a body of work, it included the players' reputation and team history. Jefferson was arrested after falling asleep at a Taco Bell drive through. Cierre Wood had been disciplined in college. Montgomery had been disciplined at LSU, and he showed up to Texans camp out of shape. Antonio Smith and Swearinger had personally warned him to get it together. The organization had taken a chance on these guys, and they repayed the organization by becoming liabilities. It has nothing to do with losing the locker room or making examples out of people. It's about wasting no more time on people who aren't getting the message.
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I've spent a good chunk of my life at house parties and hotel parties, and I can tell you this timeless truth about kids: If they're smogging up a small space, it isn't tobacco.

When Kubiak said that he looked at a body of work, it included the players' reputation and team history. Jefferson was arrested after falling asleep at a Taco Bell drive through. Cierre Wood had been disciplined in college. Montgomery had been disciplined at LSU, and he showed up to Texans camp out of shape. Antonio Smith and Swearinger had personally warned him to get it together. The organization had taken a chance on these guys, and they repayed the organization by becoming liabilities. It has nothing to do with losing the locker room or making examples out of people. It's about wasting no more time on people who aren't getting the message.
Exactly, these morons simply were unwilling to become men and put away childish things.. plain and simple. Not having a 3rd RB active is probably why we even lost against the chiefs.
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Still don't know what the hell they were thinking drafting Montgomery in the 3rd to play OLB. Just threw that pick away. At least the other guys were UFA and we have a good track record with selecting/picking up backs who fit our scheme. I hope they move Brooks Reed to ILB and sure up the RT and OLB position next year. We need more pressure coming from the outside.
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If rolled right you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a swisher sweet loaded with weed or a simple cigar.

This has nothing to do with Kubes or how the team feels about him, that kind of conspiracy theory would be giving these three dumbasses too much credit.
I agree with all that you've said. I was just being a smart-a because in the past anything that happened good or bad was some how spun to where Kubiak had some zen like control of the team and they would die for him. i.e. see McNairs comments after this game.
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Still don't know what the hell they were thinking drafting Montgomery in the 3rd to play OLB. Just threw that pick away. At least the other guys were UFA and we have a good track record with selecting/picking up backs who fit our scheme. I hope they move Brooks Reed to ILB and sure up the RT and OLB position next year. We need more pressure coming from the outside.
I agree with this but my concern is that this team has been completely unable to draft defensive talent outside of the first round. Can't draft good CBs or LBs or anything really. Well, we drafted one good lineman in the sixth but the pats are getting the benefits of that one.
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How dumb are these guys?
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Hopefully a little less dumb after this experience.
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two OLB's on a wade phillips defense, and a UDFA runningback who just had both guys ahead of him go down with injuries. it takes a special kind of stupid to blow that kind of opportunity. you know you have a history, you know you dont get any strikes ... and yet you cant resist temptation long enough to become a millionaire by playing a game.
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listening to 610 right now,

willie jefferson source say they were smoking cigars in the bathroom after curfew, nobody ever came in, but said somebody smelled smoke and told team officials, then officials asked the players to come in.

They are denying it was marijuana.

Excessive punishment if you ask me. You gotta give these guys more leeway.
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So if you play football, you get to hang in topless bars, with prostitutes and smoke dope? Why is there an exemption for that? Rules are in place for a reason. How about manning up and following them? Why should athletes get exception? All tennis players do is smack a tiny ball as do golfers, so they by your definition have to obey rules but not football players? Why is my view draconian? The players union agreed to it so live up to it. You sound like the boy who said "if there wasn't a stupid rule I would not have broken it."
I'm with badboy on this. Dudes get a rule book before the season and agree to abide by it when they sign the contract. I'd bet the vets have told them what things would get them fined and what things would get them cut somewhere along the way. They decided to ignore the rules they signed up for and chose do what they wanted to do. Now they paid the price. No sympathy from me.

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From the press conference today, sounded like this was more of a last straw than an isolated incident.
I was thinking this same thing. We never hear about the internal fines until something like this - guys actually getting cut - happens. I was wondering to myself if this was their first offense or their fourth or fifth. The "leeway" some folks are asking for may have already been extended and they came to the end of their ropes.

And it speaks to their lack of discipline too. If you can't be disciplined off the field (the freakin' night before the game for cripes sake!), how can your teammates depend on you having discipline on the field??
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It has absolutely nothing to do with caring about smoking pot.. it's about discipline. They were told they could not do "exhibit A" and they still played hanky panky in a bathroom.

This has nothing to do with pot.. since we've already given players chances on this team with drug issues and our owner already came out and said he'd give a player who has a drug record a chance. These players obviously had a previous strike against them and this wreaks of a "That's it, straw breaks back" offense.

I was high as hell on Wood (he looked like Foster 2.0).. Jefferson showed a LOT of potential..even drew Jason Taylor comparisons during this camp. Montgomery always looked like a fat lazy worthless turd, so lets leave him out of this discussion.

I don't care if a team snatches these players up and they become HOF type of players somewhere else.. this is a lessen they needed to learn and it's obvious that they need to grow as men and in the future if this makes them better people, than the Texans made the right decision today.
Former Viking & HoF'er Cris Carter will tell anyone that will listen that he was going down this road until Buddy Ryan cut him for this kind of crap. It woke him up and set him on the path to being a real man. Sometimes it takes a two-by-four across the noggin to get a guy's attention.

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I've spent a good chunk of my life at house parties and hotel parties, and I can tell you this timeless truth about kids: If they're smogging up a small space, it isn't tobacco.

When Kubiak said that he looked at a body of work, it included the players' reputation and team history. Jefferson was arrested after falling asleep at a Taco Bell drive through. Cierre Wood had been disciplined in college. Montgomery had been disciplined at LSU, and he showed up to Texans camp out of shape. Antonio Smith and Swearinger had personally warned him to get it together. The organization had taken a chance on these guys, and they repayed the organization by becoming liabilities. It has nothing to do with losing the locker room or making examples out of people. It's about wasting no more time on people who aren't getting the message.
Reps to you both.
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