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Old 10-24-2013   #201
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At least one of those players will go somewhere else and become a worthy player.
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Heard theory on radio yesterday that they cut Montgomery at same time so they could cover up that they blew the pick. After the above info this sounds more plausible. I still think they are scrambling to save their job. Many of these actions probably should have been done earlier in season or during preseason. We all know this regime is very SLOW and slow to act. Joe still here. Kubiak still here. etc....
Agreed, it's possible that this was the most convenient way to cut him. I had initially been excited about the Montgomery pick, then I saw how slow off the LOS he was in college and preseason. I might be something that couldn't be corrected.
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THis has been covered already, but Sam wasn't slow off the snap in college but asked to key off of the tackle he lined up against; look at his sacks against Clemson and you'll see what he does when allowed to key off the snap.
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If that's accurate, good for Sam.




I am very familiar with E-screen testing. It’s uniqueness is that it is a closed system which once the specimen is in the specialized cup, it is thoroughly tested within the cup without this specialized cup requiring to be opened and handled by multiple personnel in the testing process. This minimizes lab error. However, in its many options, it does not assure that the specimen submitted was from that individual. None of collection centers require that a donor strips prior to the donation, which is done in a private room without observation. In other words, there is no guarantee by the company that the specimen was not substituted for someone else’s.

[FYI, E-screen does not test for any PEDs besides amphetamines}
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Haha, well that's not entirely encouraging but I appreciate it all the same. Thanks, Doc.
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Heard theory on radio yesterday that they cut Montgomery at same time so they could cover up that they blew the pick. After the above info this sounds more plausible. I still think they are scrambling to save their job. Many of these actions probably should have been done earlier in season or during preseason. We all know this regime is very SLOW and slow to act. Joe still here. Kubiak still here. etc....
I'm confused. Why would they cut someone just to "cover up" that they blew a pick? They've had many bad draft picks over the years.

If anything, these cuts were made to open up roster spots so they could bring in more people. This team is in full panic mode, and are desperately trying to salvage this year.
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I'm confused. Why would they cut someone just to "cover up" that they blew a pick? They've had many bad draft picks over the years.

If anything, these cuts were made to open up roster spots so they could bring in more people. This team is in full panic mode, and are desperately trying to salvage this year.
Any players they pick up will be special teamers and spot relief at best, so I am hoping they raid a bunch of practice squads with the sole intention of adding speed to the team.
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Any players they pick up will be special teamers and spot relief at best, so I am hoping they raid a bunch of practice squads with the sole intention of adding speed to the team.
We can only hope, but why do I get the feeling that you could give coach Joe 11 pro bowlers and the ST's would still stink.

Do these guys hurt the Texans chances of winning? If yes they shouldn't have been cut. But at 2-5 I believe we know the answer is no, so cutting dead weight is how I look at this situation.

If this were Foster or Watt do you think they would've been cut? If you're a fringe player you have to toe the line. If you dont, you get cut.
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I am very familiar with E-screen testing. Itís uniqueness is that it is a closed system which once the specimen is in the specialized cup, it is thoroughly tested within the cup without this specialized cup requiring to be opened and handled by multiple personnel in the testing process. This minimizes lab error. However, in its many options, it does not assure that the specimen submitted was from that individual. None of collection centers require that a donor strips prior to the donation, which is done in a private room without observation. In other words, there is no guarantee by the company that the specimen was not substituted for someone elseís.

[FYI, E-screen does not test for any PEDs besides amphetamines}
Yep....that's why I threw that "if" in there. Lots of ways to beat these drug tests....
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Did the team officially release a statement that they were released for drug reasons? Or is it still all twitter based backroom sources?
I read an article the other day (ESPN I think) that said, per the new CBA, a team could not release a player for drug related offenses such as failing a drug test. Not sure what they were doing though so not sure what the policy is for whatever it is they are accused of doing.

Gotta love those team rules man.
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...there is no guarantee by the company that the specimen was not substituted for someone elseís.
Does Sam have a cousin named Sidney that has a close family resemblance?
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Does Sam have a cousin named Sidney that has a close family resemblance?
His full name is Sidney Sammual Montgomery. He is usually called "Sam"..........and sometimes (from LSU days) "Sonic Sam."
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I don't see where they tested for heart or brains but they would probably be negative also.
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We can only hope, but why do I get the feeling that you could give coach Joe 11 pro bowlers and the ST's would still stink.

Do these guys hurt the Texans chances of winning? If yes they shouldn't have been cut. But at 2-5 I believe we know the answer is no, so cutting dead weight is how I look at this situation.

If this were Foster or Watt do you think they would've been cut? If you're a fringe player you have to toe the line. If you dont, you get cut.
You should always remember there is not such thing as average with baggage. You remember Ocho Cinco's antics with the Bengals he was a very productive player then you remember he got cut in Miami after the episode with his wife. He wasn't the same player so you don't put up with him breaking the law then.
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how can u blow a 3rd round pick seriously Rick is a idiot
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how can u blow a 3rd round pick seriously Rick is a idiot
Teams blow first round picks all the time, and that's supposed to be the sure fire one.
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Teams blow first round picks all the time, and that's supposed to be the sure fire one.
Yep. I'm at the point where I barely watch the first round draft anymore. The second and third rounds are where teams are built.
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Yep. I'm at the point where I barely watch the first round draft anymore. The second and third rounds are where teams are built.
Not this one...
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Pretty obvious, we're not going to be signing any elite players. But if we don't sign some players soon, they will be learning the playbook at the same time that they are already supposed to know it.............while on the practice field for the first time. Even if they were on the team preseason, the playbook will have changed and/or expanded significantly since then. Tick, tock, tick tock, tick, tock.......
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...searching for available ex bronco and redskins players...
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