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Old 10-27-2013   #161
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Then again, it's all over if Indy wins next week. You might say its....THE BIGGEST GAME IN FRANCHISE HISTORY!!!!!!

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Just noticed that 4 of 5 of our next games will be at home!
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I agree. IMO the only hope Keenum has of being the starter through next year is if Kubiak stays.

I like Keenum, but would rather take a shot at some of these QBs coming out like Mariota, Hundley, ect.
If Kubiak gets fired and Gruden happens to migrate over here, he is likely to go with Keenum.
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If Kubiak gets fired and Gruden happens to migrate over here, he is likely to go with Keenum.
New coaches love their own QBs, especially offensive minded coaches. & with the people yaking about all the talented QBs coming in next years draft, you can be sure Gruden will bring in his own guy. Case is last year's news, Gruden has most likely moved on.

Case's best chance to be a starter in this league is with Kubiak. Case is going to be who Case is going to be & if Kubiak saw what you Case fans saw, then another coach will as well. But if he is picked up by another team, it will be with an opportunity to compete for a starting gig, & we know those competitions aren't always on the up & up.

Best chance for Case, imo, is Kubiak.
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Let's assume we beat Indy coming out of the bye ...
Let's assume the Texans win the Super Bowl this year. Then it's clear we've found our QB of the future.
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& I know people criticize Kubiak for his allegiance to Kubiak, but Kubiak showed no more allegiance to Schaub than any other HC would have shown for their QB who played as well as Schaub in recent history.

Harbaugh didn't make the switch to his guy until Alex Smith got hurt. Matt Ryan is still starting in Atlanta, Flacco still starts in Baltimore (& he's had several sub-par games before winning the Super Bowl).

Matt Schaub didn't earn the slack that Eli Manning has, but he definitely earned 3 or 4 games.

& this offense looked awesome from the get go with Schaub as a first time starter (granted he had a whole off-season to prepare), & Case is a much better athlete than Schaub was & this team is a much better team.
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Run the table, finish 11-5 and win the AFC South.

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We're only two games out of the wild-card
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We're only two games out of the wild-card
That is what is so frustrating. There is still an excellent chance the Texans can make the playoffs as a wild card. Given the defensive woes we need a miracle from the offense. If Keenum helps provide one, there is still that hope of a wild card slot. Taking the division though I think is past hope, and is very quickly moving into the fantasy category. LOL
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That is what is so frustrating. There is still an excellent chance the Texans can make the playoffs as a wild card. Given the defensive woes we need a miracle from the offense. If Keenum helps provide one, there is still that hope of a wild card slot. Taking the division though I think is past hope, and is very quickly moving into the fantasy category. LOL
In terms of Hope, obviously having a winning divisional record, this is the one positive that can be built off as this team moves ahead after the bye week.

2 weeks to prepare for the Colts at home is a huge aspect to put some hope into.

If there's ever a week the Texans need it's fan base, it's this one!

I'm glad Ellis started this thread. I was resigned that this season was over. While the realist in me still thinks in all probability, it should be, now I'm shifting my expectations to avoid frustration, but clearly have a chance to continue enjoying the rest of the season... win, lose or draw.

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Case's best chance to be a starter in this league is with Kubiak.
His best chance to GET a start was with Kubiak. That's it. Once he hits the field as a starter, ANY coach gets to see if they like what he brings.

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Matt Schaub didn't earn the slack that Eli Manning has, but he definitely earned 3 or 4 games.
And he got those, but kept up the pick-o-matic.
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Let's assume we beat Indy coming out of the bye: 3-5

We then have then have the Cardinals, Raiders, Jags, Pats, and then the Jags again: The Pats looks beatable and there isn't another game in that stretch that we should lose. Let's be realistic and assume we lose to the Pats and win the others: 7-6

That leaves the last 3 games against Indy, Denver, and the Tacks. Winning any two of those games could get us into the play offs under certain circumstances. In other words, we aren't really done yet.

Then again, it's all over if Indy wins next week. You might say its....THE BIGGEST GAME IN FRANCHISE HISTORY!!!!!!

I already beat you to the punch on that phrase for this thread! LOL


But I love the blurry line from "Assuming" we beat Indy and Being "realistic" ;-)

No if's, and's or buts, we HAVE to beat Indy or we really are done.

But realistically, if we can beat Indy, there's not a team left on our schedule that I wouldn't think would be a bigger threat, but at the same time, there isn't a team left that we can't lose to. We basically have to get lucky every week now. No more room for bad.
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But I love the blurry line from "Assuming" we beat Indy and Being "realistic" ;-)
I don't believe the lines are blurry at all. There are two distinct lines.

1) The line drawn from doing a football analysis of how the two teams are playing this year.

2) The line drawn from "who is my favorite team".

I do agree that they are still in "it" though - up to their necks and getting deeper. The problem is, what is "it"? I'm going to say kimchi. They are in deep kimchi.
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We're only two games out of the wild-card
This is somewhat misleading on its face. If the playoffs started today, the first wild card would go to the 7-1 Broncos. That leaves one wild card, for which 7 teams are ahead of the Texans. So yeah, they may "only" be 2 games out of the wild card, but 7 other teams are not even that far out. It's still early, so that doesn't mean it's impossible, but what it does mean is they do not control their own destiny. Even if they win out, they need some help. If the Texans win out and the Colts go 7-2, with the two losses being to the Texans, the Colts would finish 12-4 to the Texans' 11-5. Anyone who thinks the Texans are going to win out ... first of all, needs to share. It's toke, toke, PASS. Second, they'd have to acknowledge that the Colts could win out. Finally, they'd have to really be in love with what Keenum brings to the position, I think.

Just two games out of the wild card though. LOL
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His best chance to GET a start was with Kubiak. That's it. Once he hits the field as a starter, ANY coach gets to see if they like what he brings.
If he doesn't play well, Kubiak's gone. If Kubiak is gone, the new coach will bring in his own QB, especially considering the strength of the upcoming draft. Like it or not, the guy they drafted will have all the advantages of any "competition" or "evaluation" they might have.

Especially Gruden. He loves QBs, he's going to draft one in this draft.

No way around it, if Kubiak loses his job this season, Case didn't play very well at all & unless a UH alum becomes a HC in the NFL, Case will soon be forgotten.

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And he got those, but kept up the pick-o-matic.
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This is somewhat misleading on its face.
The point is "all is not lost" We've got people already talking about giving up on the season, tanking, & all kinds of stuff based on the fact that we won't make the play-offs.

But we're two games out of the Wild-Card.

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Best chance for Case, imo, is Kubiak.
Before KC, perhaps probably (although I think teams might have shown interest after his preseason performances).

After KC, I think there are definitely teams that would bring him in to kick the tires.

Keenum holds his and Kubiak's future in his hands right now. Honestly, I hope he's the man to save both of their jobs and the season, as well.
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New coaches love their own QBs, especially offensive minded coaches. & with the people yaking about all the talented QBs coming in next years draft, you can be sure Gruden will bring in his own guy. Case is last year's news, Gruden has most likely moved on.

Case's best chance to be a starter in this league is with Kubiak. Case is going to be who Case is going to be & if Kubiak saw what you Case fans saw, then another coach will as well. But if he is picked up by another team, it will be with an opportunity to compete for a starting gig, & we know those competitions aren't always on the up & up.

Best chance for Case, imo, is Kubiak.
Gruden gushes over Keenum and has for some time.

Kubiak, Gruden, or someone else matters not. Case's best chance to be a starter in this league is to tear it up over the next 9 games and seize the job if he can. In reality that's his only chance to be a starter in this league and that's really not all that different from most everyone else playing in the NFL. Drafted or UDFA it doesn't matter one bit. When you get your chance you either nail it or stumble.
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Gruden gushes over Keenum and has for some time.

Kubiak, Gruden, or someone else matters not. Case's best chance to be a starter in this league is to tear it up over the next 9 games and seize the job if he can. In reality that's his only chance to be a starter in this league and that's really not all that different from most everyone else playing in the NFL. Drafted or UDFA it doesn't matter one bit. When you get your chance you either nail it or stumble.
Exactly. Just like not all high round picks turn out to worthwhile. It all depends on the individual.
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& I know people criticize Kubiak for his allegiance to "Schaub", but Kubiak showed no more allegiance to Schaub than any other HC would have shown for their QB who played as well as Schaub in recent history.

Harbaugh didn't make the switch to his guy until Alex Smith got hurt. Matt Ryan is still starting in Atlanta, Flacco still starts in Baltimore (& he's had several sub-par games before winning the Super Bowl).

Matt Schaub didn't earn the slack that Eli Manning has, but he definitely earned 3 or 4 games.

& this offense looked awesome from the get go with Schaub as a first time starter (granted he had a whole off-season to prepare), & Case is a much better athlete than Schaub was & this team is a much better team.

Here is my take on this:

Kubiak showed more allegiance to Schaub than I've ever seen a head coach display. He put the team's record on the line for Schaub to hopefully come out of his funk. Kubiak's play-calling (or lack of), was centered around Schaub's disabilities.

Schaub has been playing hurt since he returned from his LisFranc injury. He has never been the same quarterback and both Kubes and Schaub knew it. Do I have proof? Yes...look at the simplistic play-calling.

Eli earned his slack...he's won SuperBowls. Schaub barely got us by the first two games of this season and was pathetic the last half of the 2012 season.

Schaub even admitted, he was the problem why the Texans have suffered this year.

Just my opinion, and what I gather from the big picture.
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