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Old 10-20-2013   #21
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Oh and seriously...what would be better for the franchise? Squeaking into the playoffs at say 9-7 (I realize that it's possible to get hot like the Ravens did last year but does anyone actually think this team can do that?) Or a complete collapse that gets us a new regime and higher draft picks?

I vote for the collapse...we have talent and could rebound quickly if we dump Kubiak.
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Oh and seriously...what would be better for the franchise? Squeaking into the playoffs at say 9-7 (I realize that it's possible to get hot like the Ravens did last year but does anyone actually think this team can do that?) Or a complete collapse that gets us a new regime and higher draft picks?

I vote for the collapse...we have talent and could rebound quickly if we dump Kubiak.
No doubt about it, squeaking into the playoffs.

It's not like there isn't a recent history of teams doing just that and riding their way into the superbowl.

The NFL draft is a crapshoot, you don't need high picks to draft elite talent.
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Default Re: We arent out of it yet...

For all practical purposes we are indeed out of it. This game was the last gasp of hope. But at least we discovered a QB who will develop into a winner for years to come.
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Oh and seriously...what would be better for the franchise? Squeaking into the playoffs at say 9-7 (I realize that it's possible to get hot like the Ravens did last year but does anyone actually think this team can do that?) Or a complete collapse that gets us a new regime and higher draft picks?

I vote for the collapse...we have talent and could rebound quickly if we dump Kubiak.
I prefer to win games, and for Keenum to be a sure thing going into next season (likely if he played well enough to finish 7-2 behind this oline) over drafting a QB and praying.
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Default Re: We arent out of it yet...

Kubiak needs to be fired. THAT is the top priority. I'm all for losses if that is what it takes to finally get rid of him.
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Default Re: We arent out of it yet...

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Ok so we have lost 5 games in a row, and we are 2-5. We have the bye week coming up.

We may not win the division but i believe we can still make it as a wild card. And even though we lost today, i saw something i havent seen this whole season. The desire to win, the belief that they could win. I even saw emotion from AJ which is a rare accurance.

So why do people say the season is lost ? We are 2-5, the season is far from over. I'm willing to bet that we finish the season at 10-6 or 9-7. I know some of you the sky is falling people are already planning trips in January, but i'm not cause we will be in the play-offs !!!
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the season isn't over guz we still have to play the games but yeahhhh ...its just a drag so far
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Default Re: We arent out of it yet...

we would have to go 8-1 to have a real chance, or win the division. with 5 division games left, we certainly do still have an opportunity to play ourselves back into it. if we can beat the colts, we have the cards and raiders which may be a good way to jump start the second half. we also have the bye coming at a good time.

of course it's going to be next to impossible, but we went 11-1 last season so we still have a lloyd christmas type chance.
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Seasons done. ESP,when we are all talking about moral victories and we still are getting a "L" in the column

(Just a random thought after reading a multiple threads)
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Oh and seriously...what would be better for the franchise? Squeaking into the playoffs at say 9-7 (I realize that it's possible to get hot like the Ravens did last year but does anyone actually think this team can do that?) Or a complete collapse that gets us a new regime and higher draft picks?

I vote for the collapse...we have talent and could rebound quickly if we dump Kubiak.
For AJs sake i hope we squeek into the play offs, this guy dont have many years left, dont want to waste the talent we have now to get more talent that is unproven and no gurantee.
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Default Re: We arent out of it yet...

we need peyton to beat the colts tonight. we havent played the colts or jaguars yet. titans we already beat.

i feel good about our chances considering what i saw from keenum out there today.
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Default Re: We arent out of it yet...

If this team could learn to get out of it's own way, there's a chance they can win. If they could learn to do that for 9 weeks, there's a good chance.

Trouble is, they've yet to show they can.
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If this team could learn to get out of it's own way, there's a chance they can win. If they could learn to do that for 9 weeks, there's a good chance.

Trouble is, they've yet to show they can.
If the injury bug ahdnt hit us like a zombie outbreak we would of won today, no run game really killed us.
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Texans are done for the year. Today was a perfect example of why. Couldn't run the ball. Couldn't stop the run. Gave up 5 sacks and had only one of their own. Lucky to have only lost by 1.
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If this team could learn to get out of it's own way, there's a chance they can win. If they could learn to do that for 9 weeks, there's a good chance.

Trouble is, they've yet to show they can.
Bigger problem is the Colts.

If the Colts can beat Denver and Seattle it's safe to assume that they won't lose many more games for the rest of the season.

Good thing they have us twice and the Titans twice, games that are always tough are those divisional games.

Also the Jags are good for one win against one of us...it'll be one of those games where it'll be their superbowl and everything goes right...it's very hard for a team to go 0-16 and if the Jags are going to win a game it'll be against a divisional rival.

this is all looking far too ahead though, but it is without a doubt over IMO if the Colts win. Either way we can't lose but one game from here on out.
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Texans are done for the year. Today was a perfect example of why. Couldn't run the ball. Couldn't stop the run. Gave up 5 sacks and had only one of their own. Lucky to have only lost by 1.
And why couldnt we run the ball ?
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Oh and seriously...what would be better for the franchise? Squeaking into the playoffs at say 9-7 (I realize that it's possible to get hot like the Ravens did last year but does anyone actually think this team can do that?) Or a complete collapse that gets us a new regime and higher draft picks?

I vote for the collapse...we have talent and could rebound quickly if we dump Kubiak.
ask the ravens and giants and steelers about squeaking into the playoffs. if we can ride case and a lot of luck into the playoffs, we could do some real damage. i see kubiak's faults same as anyone, but my opinion on him is well known. the thing that will make me change my stance on kubiak is if he decides to put schaub back in. otherwise i believe we need a right tackle and an offensive coordinator who's also a playcaller.
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I think it's a glass 1.3% full guy, in this instance.
LOL!!!!!

You know technically there's always that little bit in the bottom of the cup you can never get out, probably 1.4%...... That would make sense for us.
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Lose the word "far" and I'm with you. It's close to over, but it's not there yet. Cushing's down, Foster is gimpy, the OL is doing their best '02 Texans impersonation, and the defense gives up a 90+ yard TD drive every single game. Not over yet, but teetering on the edge of the cliff, for sure.

Keenum gives a little hope. If he can sling it like he did today, get a little help from the rest of the team, and not try to do too much, there's a chance. But the OL and defense have to step up. And Ed Reed has to retire and give back the money he stole.
This. Agreed 100%.

Watching the Texans play today was discouraging. It was a complete trainwreck, and I'm amazed at how well Case played despite the bad blocking, the lack of a run game, etc.
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If the injury bug ahdnt hit us like a zombie outbreak we would of won today, no run game really killed us.
yup. 2-5 sucks my friend.
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