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Old 10-21-2013   #121
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I was impressed. Keep in mind it was in Arrowhead against the Chiefs D. He needs to improve on some things, obviously... but the thing is that he can improve, as compared to Schaub who's already hit his ceiling.

By all accounts Keenum seems like a hard worker and eager learner and he will learn what Kubes teaches him about dealing with overload blitzes and recognition at the line.
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The idea that we can declare Case the QB of the future, or declare that he is a legitimate starting QB in the NFL, is nonsense. NFL history is full of QBs that have started out gangbusters and then come back down to Earth and then quickly been out of the league.

However, considering our record, the trajectory of our season, and what he showed today, there is no doubt he should be starting the rest of the season to prove that he is a starting QB, or to crash and burn so we can move on. Going back to Schaub would be pointless, and going to Yates would be stupid.
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The fanboys are out in full force, of course.

Keenum played better than Schaub has. He had an ok game. The guy can definitely throw but his recognition at the line leaves something to be desired. Hopefully he can improve on that.

It's almost as if you fanboys don't watch other NFL games. Simply comparing Keenum to Schaub is setting the bar extremely low.
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The td was 30yds. The graham pass was a floater. The hopkins drag rt from left to right hung and was behind. Didn't se any "stick" throws especially to the zones I knew he'd struggle.
Didn't comment on the play I mentioned, I see. How about the 40-something yarder to AJ after the backfield scramble? Amateur arm, right? Unlike Rey, I do not see any football acumen in your posts. I see someone who has no clue and seems to be pushing an agenda.

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The guy can definitely throw but his recognition at the line leaves something to be desired. Hopefully he can improve on that.
He will. There are lots of legitimate concerns about Keenum going forward, but arm strength isn't one of them.
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The fanboys are out in full force, of course.

Keenum played better than Schaub has. He had an ok game. The guy can definitely throw but his recognition at the line leaves something to be desired. Hopefully he can improve on that.

It's almost as if you fanboys don't watch other NFL games. Simply comparing Keenum to Schaub is setting the bar extremely low.
Agreed that Case needs to improve on reading blitzes and hitting the hot receiver. Agreed that Case played better than Schaub has. Agreed that Case can definitely throw.

Why the fan boy comment? Just because someone states that Case is better than Schaub does not make someone a fan boy. It's more like stating the obvious. Maybe you should be more of a fan boy.
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The fanboys are out in full force, of course.

Keenum played better than Schaub has. He had an ok game. The guy can definitely throw but his recognition at the line leaves something to be desired. Hopefully he can improve on that.

It's almost as if you fanboys don't watch other NFL games. Simply comparing Keenum to Schaub is setting the bar extremely low.
How many games had Keenum played in before, since his line recognition "leaves something to be desired". Haters around here acting like he is a five year vet or something and not playing in his first game ever.
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Agreed that Case needs to improve on reading blitzes and hitting the hot receiver. Agreed that Case played better than Schaub has. Agreed that Case can definitely throw.

Why the fan boy comment? Just because someone states that Case is better than Schaub does not make someone a fan boy. It's more like stating the obvious. Maybe you should be more of a fan boy.
There were 7 threads about Case Keenum before he even played a snap. 2 more, atleast, got deleted or locked. People put their faith in him and are now personally invested in his play. Just look at the title of this thread. You've got people blaming the coach, of course, for Keenum's mistakes. It's funny.

That's why I put the fanboy comment in. Because it's necessary to keep all this in perspective.

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How many games had Keenum played in before, since his line recognition "leaves something to be desired". Haters around here acting like he is a five year vet or something and not playing in his first game ever.
What does that have to do with how he played today? The question is how did he play today? He played ok. Understand what we are talking about, please.
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Case played awesome for his first NFL start. The game did not get too big for him - he looked like he has that"it" factor. Great mobility, arm strength, accuracy, quick release all on the road against an undefeated monster defense.


Imagine what happens when he has a running game, better o line play and improves against the blitz. I know that the more games he plays the more opposing teams can learn to rattle him but great first game
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There were 7 threads about Case Keenum before he even played a snap. 2 more, at least, got deleted or locked. People put their faith in him and are now personally invested in his play. Just look at the title of this thread. You've got people blaming the coach, of course, for Keenum's mistakes. It's funny.

That's why I put the fanboy comment in. Because it's necessary to keep all this in perspective.



What does that have to do with how he played today? The question is how did he play today? He played ok. Understand what we are talking about, please.
So let me get this straight.. you put in the fanboy comment, because people "were blaming the coach" (lets ignore the fact that the OP.. me, stuck up for the coach) and you're trying to keep things in "perspective"... I call shenanigans on that.

I have never seen "fanboys" hate on a QB like they have here, it's almost like they have a rooting interest for him to fail, just to be "right'.

Now do I believe this? no, but I'm almost there.. it's getting ridiculous.
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There were 7 threads about Case Keenum before he even played a snap. 2 more, atleast, got deleted or locked. People put their faith in him and are now personally invested in his play. Just look at the title of this thread. You've got people blaming the coach, of course, for Keenum's mistakes. It's funny.
That's why I put the fanboy comment in. Because it's necessary to keep all this in perspective.



What does that have to do with how he played today? The question is how did he play today? He played ok. Understand what we are talking about, please.
People put their faith in him because of what he displayed in PS. Kubiak deserves a lot of the blame he's getting. He's made some bone-headed, man crush decisions. A lot of the criticism of Kubiak is not constrained to 2013 only. A lot of the people ******ing about hom have been ******ing about him for years.
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So let me get this straight.. you put in the fanboy comment, because people were blaming the coach and you're trying to keep things in "perspective"... I call shenanigans on that.

I have never seen "fanboys" hate on a QB like they have here, it's almost like they have a rooting interest for him to fail.

Now do I believe this? no, but I'm almost there..
Who's rooting for him to fail? Just because people have the opinion that he didn't play great today?

The fantasy land of TexansTalk is maddening at times.
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Who's rooting for him to fail? Just because people have the opinion that he didn't play great today?

The fantasy land of TexansTalk is maddening at times.
Which has nothing to do with calling people who thinks he played great "fanboys".

You can think he played like crap (you'd be in the minority BTW and would be disagreeing with the majority of your team's lockeroom) without questioning where people's loyalties lie.

I'm not a UofH fan.. don't really give a crap about their football prog.

I'm not a Case Keenum homer

I'm not a "fanboy"

I'm a Texans' fan who recognizes (like other people/players do) that Keenum gives us our best chance to win and is our best current option.
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Who's rooting for him to fail?
Seems like about a half dozen of you currently. Hardly a large number.
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There were 7 threads about Case Keenum before he even played a snap. 2 more, atleast, got deleted or locked. People put their faith in him and are now personally invested in his play. Just look at the title of this thread. You've got people blaming the coach, of course, for Keenum's mistakes. It's funny.

That's why I put the fanboy comment in. Because it's necessary to keep all this in perspective.



What does that have to do with how he played today? The question is how did he play today? He played ok. Understand what we are talking about, please.
Because you act like he should be playing like a vet. the mistakes he made at the line should be expected IN HIS FIRST GAME. Seriously, think here....
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The fanboys are out in full force, of course.

Keenum played better than Schaub has. He had an ok game. The guy can definitely throw but his recognition at the line leaves something to be desired. Hopefully he can improve on that.

It's almost as if you fanboys don't watch other NFL games. Simply comparing Keenum to Schaub is setting the bar extremely low.
After rewatching the games a couple of times, including a lot of freezed frames, pauses, rewinds and a lot of checking out the defenses called, what the QB should see, my conclusion is that Keenum played even better than I originally thought.
I will come back to play by play when I have time; I also like to wait for the All-22 angles to confirm a few things.
At the very least, Keenum more than carried his weight, even disregarding the fact that it was his first start, in one of the most hostile environment, against a great or at least very good defense.

With Schaub, it would have been a blow out; same goes with Yates.
Keenum played well enough to win the game.

He recognized the blitzes, including the overload just fine.
His decisions were very sound.
I will come back to this also.

He's going to have the chance to start more games for the Texans; I'm quite confident of that.
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Seems like about a half dozen of you currently. Hardly a large number.
Maybe we should start a poll to find out who this half dozen is. I don't remember seeing anyone hoping for Keenum to fail.
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After rewatching the games a couple of times, including a lot of freezed frames, pauses, rewinds and a lot of checking out the defenses called, what the QB should see, my conclusion is that Keenum played even better than I originally thought.
I will come back to play by play when I have time; I also like to wait for the All-22 angles to confirm a few things.
At the very least, Keenum more than carried his weight, even disregarding the fact that it was his first start, in one of the most hostile environment, against a great or at least very good defense.

With Schaub, it would have been a blow out; same goes with Yates.
Keenum played well enough to win the game.

He recognized the blitzes, including the overload just fine.
His decisions were very sound.
I will come back to this also.

He's going to have the chance to start more games for the Texans; I'm quite confident of that.

I don't think he played bad nor well. Case was a neutral player today. He wasn't why they lost,but he didn't do enough to help the team win. He made some throws that were completitions that were poor throws. I expect it from a yound player.
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