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Old 10-20-2013   #421
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I'm just hoping tomorrow I see one of those corny headlines like "CK lights up KC!" I can hope, can't I?
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Case and the rest of the Texans will prove this to be the monumental Trap Game for the Chiefs.

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I heard Derrick ward say the texans will never win a Super Bowl with Matt Schaub.

Do you know more than a football player that played with Matt Schaub?
Be careful, a little fishy will swim in and call you a liar or proclaim that you're not a Texans fan and your only interest in posting here is to make sure his QB is "S" canned... even though you've been posting here long before his (blood) Schaub was even a NFL thought.
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Case and the rest of the Texans will prove this to be the monumental Trap Game for the Chiefs.

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They talked about it this morning of NFL Network.. it was also brought up on First Take Friday on how (names) Brian Cushing, Antonio Smith, Andre Johnson, and Duane Brown have all came out and talked highly of Keenum.. who knows how many other players are talking... it doesn't take a damn genius to be able to read the tea leaves here.

P.S.

My hopes and dreams are not tied to the fall of Schaub (#1 reason is because he's already fallen so there's nothing to even tie to), but it's apparently clear your hopes and dreams are tied to keeping him propped up... for whatever reason, "blood is thicker than water".
Oh I see, so the lip service every player would give when asked about another player suddenly means they want a QB change?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

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Why in the world do you want to go there now?

It's not worth it. We've got two weeks for that debate, no reason to start muddying the water now.

Right now, it's about Case. He needs the BullsonParade to bring it. blahblahblahing about the gimp ain't helping nobody.
Why not? Because you don't see any reason for it? I'll be sure to check with you first next time I consider making a post to be sure I am not jumping the gun on a topic.

It's not about Case dude. It's about the Texans. When are you people going to get that? Calling Schaub a Gimp does nothing but make you look as petty as the rest of the name callers and cry babies.
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Oh I see, so the lip service every player would give when asked about another player suddenly means they want a QB change?.
No, but when your own QB coach comes out and openly roots for the other guy it does. I understand your "relation" to this topic, but get real here.. it's blatantly obvious that the Texans are moving on.
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Seriously, what makes you so infatuated with Schaub? I've accused you of being a part of his family like 30 times now (some of which were deleted.. sorry Lucky) and you have not once denied it. Hulk75 v 2.0
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I am a big Case Keenum fan and I expect him to do at least really good things in the NFL .... eventually!!

What I see on this board is the Keenum fans are a little over the top with their appreciation for him and his detractors are basically saying ..."Okay Keenum fanboys, let's see him destroy the Chiefs Sunday or he is no good!" Both sides do not have realistic expectations.

It would be hard for ANY team with ANY NFL QB to go into KC this weekend and destroy them and that includes all the top teams and QB's. So, to put such expectations on CK with a mediocre 2-4 team and suspect coaching on him is unfair and unrealistic.

Some have stated their expectations of him to be 'mistake free'. Even the BEST QB's in the league are not 'mistake free' and add to that the pressure cooker of this game in KC. Another unrealistic expectation.

I believe our expectations should be that he competently operates the QB position and gains confidence as the game goes on. I expect him to make more than one mistake. An interception or 2 is highly possible. However, I also expect him to make some plays that we're not used to seeing from our QB's. I expect, as his comfort level grows, that he will improve in his pocket presence and ability to look down field and read the defense. I expect him to go outside Gary's box when plays break down and sometimes create something good from it instead of creating a turnover or loss. If he gets thru this pressure packed game as I've described against the undefeated Chiefs on their noisy home field with our mediocre team and mediocre coaching then the upside for him will be great moving forward.

Expecting him to 'lead' us to victory is unrealistic, but possible knowing him. However, the people who SHOULD be leading this team to victory this week are Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, Duane Brown, Chris Myers, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, Ed Reed, Jonathon Joseph, Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips with Keenum being competent enough to operate the offense and not throw the game away.
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But we can agree to disagree. There is no reason at all to put Schaub back into a game wearing a texans uniform unless keenum and Yates get hurt. Or by some miracle we make the play offs and case gets hurt.

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I'm not arguing that.

The Case love has been ridiculous & unwarranted. Only a fanboi would say otherwise.
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All this hand-wringing is annoying, tedious, and ridiculous.

The players are going to say positive things REGARDLESS of what the decision is.

Let the ****ing guy play. If he fails, he fails. If he succeeds, he succeeds. If he looks pedestrian, he looks pedestrian. He will be what he becomes.

Relying on Case Keenum to lead us to anything right now is not good. As said above, our real stars are going to have to lead us to victory today and beyond.
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I am a big Case Keenum fan and I expect him to do at least really good things in the NFL .... eventually!!

What I see on this board is the Keenum fans are a little over the top with their appreciation for him and his detractors are basically saying ..."Okay Keenum fanboys, let's see him destroy the Chiefs Sunday or he is no good!" Both sides do not have realistic expectations.

It would be hard for ANY team with ANY NFL QB to go into KC this weekend and destroy them and that includes all the top teams and QB's. So, to put such expectations on CK with a mediocre 2-4 team and suspect coaching on him is unfair and unrealistic.

Some have stated their expectations of him to be 'mistake free'. Even the BEST QB's in the league are not 'mistake free' and add to that the pressure cooker of this game in KC. Another unrealistic expectation.

I believe our expectations should be that he competently operates the QB position and gains confidence as the game goes on. I expect him to make more than one mistake. An interception or 2 is highly possible. However, I also expect him to make some plays that we're not used to seeing from our QB's. I expect, as his comfort level grows, that he will improve in his pocket presence and ability to look down field and read the defense. I expect him to go outside Gary's box when plays break down and sometimes create something good from it instead of creating a turnover or loss. If he gets thru this pressure packed game as I've described against the undefeated Chiefs on their noisy home field with our mediocre team and mediocre coaching then the upside for him will be great moving forward.

Expecting him to 'lead' us to victory is unrealistic, but possible knowing him. However, the people who SHOULD be leading this team to victory this week are Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, Duane Brown, Chris Myers, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, Ed Reed, Jonathon Joseph, Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips with Keenum being competent enough to operate the offense and not throw the game away.
This is what I expect... I expect Keenum to look capable at his position and not make the same mistakes his predecessors have made that put us in costly situations.. and I expect the defense to man up behind their morning DC who just lost his father and go braveheat on the chiefs. This game will probably be a defensive struggle and a 10-6 final score won't bother me at all.. as long as we're on the winning end.
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I'm not arguing that.

The Case love has been ridiculous & unwarranted. Only a fanboi would say otherwise.
I have not commented on what I think of "Case love" other than using it as a comparison to the "Schaub love".


But I will now. I'm not a case fanboi, but I am curious to see what he has. Just from what I've personally heard, that seems to be the general thought pattern.

So if that's "The Case love" you are referring to then I disagree.

Just to be clear, I think it's ridiculous and unwarranted to put Schaub back in at any point unless we are depleted due to injuries. Even if Case plays terrible in a win today, I would not go back to Schaub. For what? (IMO)
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Going through my posts prior to Keenum being announced as starter and found this from week ago. Now if the rest will come true:

At the moment I have a slightly different take than you as I have watched Keenum for several college years and compare him favorably to all 2014 QBs. Add in that he will have two years NFL seasoning and hopefully some actual game experience to evaluate, I at this moment rate him + a #1 pick at another position over selecting a QB. In my perfect world of optimism, I trade MS + Tate for Browns WR Josh Gordon (despite team saying not up for trade) and their own third round. That leaves them two firsts, a second and another third from Steelers. Just to clarify, Gordon at Baylor had issues with marijuana but the 2013 suspension for first two games was due to taking cough syrup with codeine in it for a strep throat in February. Link:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/93...pended-2-games

A change of scenery for MS could revive his career and Tate is a tantalizing morsel for a RB starved Cleveland team.
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I'm not arguing that.

The Case love has been ridiculous & unwarranted. Only a fanboi would say otherwise.
You're describing your hard headed love for Matt Schaub actually along with your undying infatuation for Kubiak. Both of which you'll most likely deny ever existed when both of them are gone as you do with just about every other subject you argue for years and then deny ever caring about. I'm calling it out now. The only reason you continue to make these wild claims of people way over hyping Keenum is because you don't want to see Schaub replaced.
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I'm not arguing that.

The Case love has been ridiculous & unwarranted. Only a fanboi would say otherwise.
The Case bashing has been ridiculous and unwarranted.. this has nothing to do with being a "fanboi". As far as being a "case homer", the entire team has now backed him.. so were they also being a "fanbois"?

If you have anything positive to say about the kid, you're labeled a member of the "Case cult club" or a "UofH homer" even though you never stepped foot of that campus or follow that team... that's what is ridiculous.

The love for Case has been very warranted, because it isn't just fans rooting for Case to succeed.. it's fans rooting for a change at QB. Which has to happen if we are able to even sniff anywhere close to a SB appearance or even consistently win this division.
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I don't know what to expect today. And that's what makes this game exciting for me. I could see it going really well or really poorly.

But my gut tells me that Case is going to play well and will make some plays that the other two guys don't make.

But this is his first NFL start so I don't expect him to be flawless and I could see him not seeing some coverage correctly and throwing a pick(s). He has his flaws, but like Kubiak said cheerfully at his last press conference, I like Cases instincts and that's what I'm hoping to see today.

The off schedule plays. The throws that Schaub couldn't/Didn't make. The ability to scramble when no one is open and pick up any positive yardage at all.

But as far as I'm concerned the rest of the year should be a Case/TJ Audition (TJ should get another shot if Case stinks). And since I'm already convinced on what Schaub is, I don't need to see any more. IF no one on the roster can play NFL QB at a high level....Well, now we know. Time to move on and grab THE GUY in the draft.

But really all this Schaub talk is just in one ear and out the other. Case being terrible or not has no bearing on what I think of him and his future here. IMO, it's either Case (with a small chance it's TJ) or it's a rookie next year. I'm past Matt Schaub already.
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Going through my posts prior to Keenum being announced as starter and found this from week ago. Now if the rest will come true:

At the moment I have a slightly different take than you as I have watched Keenum for several college years and compare him favorably to all 2014 QBs. Add in that he will have two years NFL seasoning and hopefully some actual game experience to evaluate, I at this moment rate him + a #1 pick at another position over selecting a QB. In my perfect world of optimism, I trade MS + Tate for Browns WR Josh Gordon (despite team saying not up for trade) and their own third round. That leaves them two firsts, a second and another third from Steelers. Just to clarify, Gordon at Baylor had issues with marijuana but the 2013 suspension for first two games was due to taking cough syrup with codeine in it for a strep throat in February. Link:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/93...pended-2-games

A change of scenery for MS could revive his career and Tate is a tantalizing morsel for a RB starved Cleveland team.
I would do that trade.
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Every texan fan should root for Case to play well enough to keep his job and to move on from the schaub era.
Every Texan fan should root for a Texans victory, regardless who our QB is.
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if case struggles badly kubiak will go back to schaub. His job is on the line hence why he leapfrogged keenum over yates.

Every texan fan should root for Case to play well enough to keep his job and to move on from the schaub era.
We're not going to win with Case, Schaub, or Tj if the run game does not dominate, if the defense does not dominate. & I don't mean good enough to win, they need to dominate, they need to play so well that we win in spite of the QB, in spite of the Special Teams.

So it's not about if Case struggles or not. It's about the spark. If there is a spark, then Kubiak will have to try to figure out if it was because our fans cheered Schaub's injury, if it's because Case was named starter, or if it's because Wade's daddy passed away. Personally I couldn't care less what provided the spark, as long as there is one. If it's there, I'm not changing anything.

If it's not there, then Kubiak has to decide what gives us the best chance to win after the bye. IF Case struggles & Matt is healthy I have no doubt what Kubiak is going to do.
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We're not going to win with Case, Schaub, or Tj if the run game does not dominate, if the defense does not dominate. & I don't mean good enough to win, they need to dominate, they need to play so well that we win in spite of the QB, in spite of the Special Teams.

So it's not about if Case struggles or not. It's about the spark. If there is a spark, then Kubiak will have to try to figure out if it was because our fans cheered Schaub's injury, if it's because Case was named starter, or if it's because Wade's daddy passed away. Personally I couldn't care less what provided the spark, as long as there is one. If it's there, I'm not changing anything.

If it's not there, then Kubiak has to decide what gives us the best chance to win after the bye. IF Case struggles & Matt is healthy I have no doubt what Kubiak is going to do.
Sorry, but we have too many g'damn weapons on offense to NEED the defense to dominate to win.
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