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Old 10-16-2013   #21
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Its so hard for me as a Houston Cougar to be objective on the subject of Case Keenum. I want him to earn this, but I also want him to succeed in the worst way to show all those who doubted his talent that he is a good QB and can succeed at this level. It also irked me how they called him a system QB in college, but when RG III and Johnny Football played in the same offense they never got that label.

Case has given all UH fans a lot of joy watching him play and I want him to be able to do that to Texan fans too.
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I think Case starts.

I think if Yates was undoubtedly going to be the starter they wouldn't even bother him sharing snaps with Case. The fact that Case is even a question at this point as a 3rd string QB means that Kubiak is giving it serious question.

I mean if Yates is truly the 2nd string QB then this is his job, no doubt about it...so why split the practice time? I think it's under more serious consideration and now other players getting behind Keenum and Yates previous play has only helped.
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Such a simple yet obvious way to look at it; I can't believe I hadn't thought of it. I actually feel stupid for having not looked at that angle. And here I was thinking Kubes was going to star Keenum because he mentioned Case first out of the two when he said he was going to work them both out to prepare for the game. I could be looking into too much, but I think psychologically that was telling.

But remember folks, we'd be throwing Case into one helluva damn cauldron in Arrowhead for his first NFL start. I don't know if Kubes would do that.
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MSR.

Such a simple yet obvious way to look at it; I can't believe I hadn't thought of it. I actually feel stupid for having not looked at that angle. And here I was thinking Kubes was going to star Keenum because he mentioned Case first out of the two when he mentioned he was going to work them both out to prepare for the game. I could be looking into too much, but I think psychologically that was telling.

But remember folks, we'd be throwing Case into one helluva damn cauldron in Arrowhead for his first NFL start. I don't know if Kubes would do that.
i think this is the perfect time to put him in, i dont think Case needs a confidence builder game haha. I think this is just what he needs, and i honestly dont think anyone will be dissapointed with the results.
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If anyone watched the preseason you would have seen this yourself. There was a marked difference in the energy and intensity level when Case was in.
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If anyone watched the preseason you would have seen this yourself. There was a marked difference in the energy and intensity level when Case was in.
yup, I was more on the edge of my seat just to see him play.

IMO good or bad, Let him play the entire game. Let fans see what he can do good or bad. You have a bye week coming up, that gives the team time to rest up and get better, plus gives the fans and talking heads two weeks to digest the quality of all 3 QB's. This gives more of a look to what we have for the near future..
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To be fair, AJ had positive things to say about both Case and TJ, and he'd be comfortable with both of them

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Let's not make more out of AJ's comments than there actually was. That said, I want to see Keenum get a chance to start.
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I think Case starts.

I think if Yates was undoubtedly going to be the starter they wouldn't even bother him sharing snaps with Case. The fact that Case is even a question at this point as a 3rd string QB means that Kubiak is giving it serious question.

I mean if Yates is truly the 2nd string QB then this is his job, no doubt about it...so why split the practice time? I think it's under more serious consideration and now other players getting behind Keenum and Yates previous play has only helped.
Let's imagine you've got to put a football team out on the field to play come Sunday. You must be prepared to finish the game, even if a player gets hurt. So you've got to prepare the starter, then you've got to prepare your back up.

At WR, for instance. Keyshawn Martin gets snaps at both the Y & the Z position. If something were to happen to either Andre or DeAndre, Keyshawn becomes a starter. With that in mind, Keyshawn takes first team snaps during practice. Andre & DeAndre gets most of them. Keyshawn probably gets as much, since he is preparing for two positions.

In the case of our QB..... even before our game week 1, game, our #1 & #2 QBs split snaps. Schaub got most of them, Tj got quiet a few. Case led the scout team. None of the snaps he took prepared him for coming into a regular season game. That makes sense, since he wasn't expected to see any part of a regular season game.

Now, the fate of our starting QB is in question. We don't know if he's going to be able to play. In the event that he can't start the game & something prevents Tj from finishing the game, we need to be prepared to send someone out there & "play" QB. Since Keenum is the only other QB on our roster, he gets the nod.

Kubiak said he's got to prepare both of his young QBs for Sunday's game. We assumed that meant Case may get an opportunity to start. It's possible (far fetched, I know) that he meant he's got to prepare Tj to start & Case to be a back up.

Crazy idea, I know... but stranger things have happened.
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Let's not make more out of AJ's comments than there actually was. That said, I want to see Keenum get a chance to start.
Yeah, but he basically says Case has something extra about him.
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FFS. Two pages of this bollocks.

Andre was specifically asked about Keenum, and duly replied. He most likely would have said the same thing had he been asked about Yates.

Do you actually think AJ would throw Keenum under the bus by saying, "I haven't seen much of him because he was on the practice squad all last year, and this year he's been running the scout team, that is when TJ isn't available."

I get the excitement over the unknown. But this is not a case of AJ seeking out a reporter just to fawn over Keenum.

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Andre was specifically asked about Keenum, and duly replied. He most likely would have said the same thing had he been asked about Yates.
He did. Check my post above.
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Its so hard for me as a Houston Cougar to be objective on the subject of Case Keenum. I want him to earn this, but I also want him to succeed in the worst way to show all those who doubted his talent that he is a good QB and can succeed at this level. It also irked me how they called him a system QB in college, but when RG III and Johnny Football played in the same offense they never got that label.

Case has given all UH fans a lot of joy watching him play and I want him to be able to do that to Texan fans too.
Love this post. My thoughts exactly.
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FFS. Two pages of this bollocks.

Andre was specifically asked about Keenum, and duly replied. He most likely would have said the same thing had he been asked about Yates.

Do you actually think AJ would throw Keenum under the bus by saying, "I haven't seen much of him because he was on the practice squad all last year, and this year he's been running the scout team, that is when TJ isn't available."

I get the excitement over the unknown. But this is not a case of AJ seeking out a reporter just to fawn over Keenum.

AJ could of easily said yeah i have confidence in Keenum, but he didnt he specifically said he has that thing about him, which is what a lot of us here see as well. Its not hard to see that Keenum has qualities the other two QBs do not have.
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It sounds corny as hell, but it wouldn't hurt the team to have a little fun. Keenum's giddy energy could very well be the hangover cure the Texans need. Lord knows that hair of the dog aint working.
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AJ could of easily said yeah i have confidence in Keenum, but he didnt he specifically said he has that thing about him, which is what a lot of us here see as well. Its not hard to see that Keenum has qualities the other two QBs do not have.
I like case and I honestly think that if Schaub can't get it done that you have to go to Keenum because Yates is Schaub lite but I don't think that what AJ said is positive at all.

If you ask me that is not what you want AJ to say.

"So AJ what do you think about that barbiesque cheerleader over there?"

"She's hot! She dances well"

"And what about the new "anchor" of the squad?"

"She's really got an aura about her... she's out there having fun"

I might be wrong, but I really thought that was the "great personality" of compliments...

It wasn't "he can make all of the throws" or the "he's got a great command of the huddle".

And again, I'm a Case guy, I just don't think this was really that much of a compliment as much as it was just a statement.

It was probably not a "he's awesome" or "he sucks" it was probably just a "um, I don't want to say anything too good or to bad".

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Let's not make more out of AJ's comments than there actually was. That said, I want to see Keenum get a chance to start.
What you posted was just Andre being PC. What Andre said about Case was real.
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Let's imagine you've got to put a football team out on the field to play come Sunday. You must be prepared to finish the game, even if a player gets hurt. So you've got to prepare the starter, then you've got to prepare your back up.

At WR, for instance. Keyshawn Martin gets snaps at both the Y & the Z position. If something were to happen to either Andre or DeAndre, Keyshawn becomes a starter. With that in mind, Keyshawn takes first team snaps during practice. Andre & DeAndre gets most of them. Keyshawn probably gets as much, since he is preparing for two positions.

In the case of our QB..... even before our game week 1, game, our #1 & #2 QBs split snaps. Schaub got most of them, Tj got quiet a few. Case led the scout team. None of the snaps he took prepared him for coming into a regular season game. That makes sense, since he wasn't expected to see any part of a regular season game.

Now, the fate of our starting QB is in question. We don't know if he's going to be able to play. In the event that he can't start the game & something prevents Tj from finishing the game, we need to be prepared to send someone out there & "play" QB. Since Keenum is the only other QB on our roster, he gets the nod.

Kubiak said he's got to prepare both of his young QBs for Sunday's game. We assumed that meant Case may get an opportunity to start. It's possible (far fetched, I know) that he meant he's got to prepare Tj to start & Case to be a back up.

Crazy idea, I know... but stranger things have happened.
Here's how I interpreted the bolded part. Kubiak is going to start Yates. he has experience, and is already the #2. The reason he is preparing both QB's equally is because Yates is going to have an extremely short leash. If he plays as poorly as he did last week, Kubiak will not hesitate to throw Keenum in there, so he needs to have both of them ready to go.
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I think anyone that saw him play were impressed with what he did in preseason.

I'll be surprised if they put Yates out there, moreso if they go to Schaub.
That means you think Case Keenum will get the start. Sorry, I don't think the coaches have enough insight for that.

Schaub and Yates are similar in that both stare down the receiver they want to go to. They can't read a defense nor can they find a secondary target. Yates is better in that he can occasionally throw farther than 5 yards with accuracy.

I don't expect Keenum to be an instant superstar. But he is already better than either alternative, and the season is pretty well blown anyhow, so put him in and let him progress. But don't count on Kubes to realize that and admit it.
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Let's imagine you've got to put a football team out on the field to play come Sunday. You must be prepared to finish the game, even if a player gets hurt. So you've got to prepare the starter, then you've got to prepare your back up.

At WR, for instance. Keyshawn Martin gets snaps at both the Y & the Z position. If something were to happen to either Andre or DeAndre, Keyshawn becomes a starter. With that in mind, Keyshawn takes first team snaps during practice. Andre & DeAndre gets most of them. Keyshawn probably gets as much, since he is preparing for two positions.

In the case of our QB..... even before our game week 1, game, our #1 & #2 QBs split snaps. Schaub got most of them, Tj got quiet a few. Case led the scout team. None of the snaps he took prepared him for coming into a regular season game. That makes sense, since he wasn't expected to see any part of a regular season game.

Now, the fate of our starting QB is in question. We don't know if he's going to be able to play. In the event that he can't start the game & something prevents Tj from finishing the game, we need to be prepared to send someone out there & "play" QB. Since Keenum is the only other QB on our roster, he gets the nod.

Kubiak said he's got to prepare both of his young QBs for Sunday's game. We assumed that meant Case may get an opportunity to start. It's possible (far fetched, I know) that he meant he's got to prepare Tj to start & Case to be a back up.

Crazy idea, I know... but stranger things have happened.
Nope. First of all kubiak said he doesn't know who will start. He wouldn't even commit to starting a healthy Schaub.

Second, you don't split reps if you are trying to get TJ ready to start.

Maybe kubiak genuinely didn't know. Crazy idea.
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You can see what you want. I think the entire comment regarding both of them was AJ being PC.

BTW, I'm a Coug and want Case to succeed just as much as the next guy, but let's not read too much into players comments to the media.
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Nope. First of all kubiak said he doesn't know who will start. He wouldn't even commit to starting a healthy Schaub.

Second, you don't split reps if you are trying to get TJ ready to start.

Maybe kubiak genuinely didn't know. Crazy idea.
I'm not a coach, and I don't know how a coach prepares his team through the week. But Kubiak couldn't have been happy with what he saw out of TJ last Sunday. That being said, there was also a reason why he picked TJ as the #2 over Case after the training camp. Maybe whatever edge he thought TJ had over Case, with them being "neck in neck" as he said himself, is now gone. Maybe he has a better idea after today's practice on who he's leaning towards, and I'd imagine that guy will get the majority of the reps with #1's Thursday and Friday. Just a thought.
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