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View Poll Results: Rank these quarterbacks from best to worst.
Matt Schaub, Blaine Gabbert, Steven McGee 23 54.76%
Matt Schaub, Steven McGee, Blaine Gabbert 15 35.71%
Blaine Gabbert, Matt Schaub, Steven McGee 1 2.38%
Blaine Gabbert, Steven McGee, Matt Schaub 0 0%
Steven McGee, Matt Schaub, Blaine Gabbert 0 0%
Steven McGee, Blaine Gabbert, Matt Schaub 3 7.14%
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Old 10-10-2013   #21
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Rivers & Schaub were in the same draft. They're practically the same age. Jay Cutler was drafted two years later. Both guys came into the league as starters, Cutler had two franchises built around him & Rivers has had at least two teams built around him, the last two/three years has been a rebuilding process for them more or less. They've been losing a lot of talent on both sides of the ball & not really doing a good job of replacing it.
My point was more about the teams/situations than age. Both are on teams that were/are rebuilding offensively where as Schaub has already been here several years and had the team built around him. We got the receivers, backs and...sort of an offensive line (think we screwed the pooch here). Well, Cutler actually has the offense around him now so more comparable. He has little to no excuse and will be gone if he doesn't keep up the progress. So he's in a make it or break it situation and hasn't earned anything still to this point.

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My personal opinion is that for the last 5 games, Matt has been trying to come out of that conservative shell that we don't like. I think there are two ways to go from here.
  1. Schaub can push forward & continue to try to make plays & the rest of the team step up. This means he continues to push his comfort level & take more chances. He'll continue to make mistakes, there will be more INTs to come, most likely some pick 6es.

    I know at one time we said we were ok with that. With a dominant run game, a dominant defense, & a bad ass punter, we should be able to overcome mistakes made by an aggressive offense.
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  2. Schaub goes back to his old ways & the rest of the team step up. Very unpopular opinion, but Schaub played his average game against the Patriots in the divisional round. Foster (the OL) & the defense didn't step up the way we needed them to.

    Schaub is definitely an anchor, slowing us down.... but not so much that he's holding us back. Well, if he remains as mistake prone as he's been this year he'll be holding us back if the defense doesn't stop allowing 70+ yard TD scoring drives & the run game can't keep us out of 3rd & long (penalties got us against SF moreso than the run game). But I'm blindly hoping he cuts way back on the turn overs.

Pleas don't think I'm absolving Schaub of any mistakes, blame, or responsibility. I've given up on him being better than he is. Realistically if the rest of the team does not step up, we don't have a chance. Schaub is Schaub. "Fixing" Schaub isn't going to get us "Peyton Manning" it's going to get us regular season Joe Flacco.
Nothing wrong with your list. Scary thing about it is that basically the rest of the team has to be damn near flawless or play a very balanced game for Schaub to have success. It is probably one of the issues but nothing we can do about it. But yeah I agree. Best chance we have to stay alive is to fall back and go conservative mode. At least that way the games can be close instead of these double digit losses that are happening far too often lately. It will also keep the team from getting over demoralized by another bad play/situation.

Schaub is definitely who he is at this point. I say let him toss it 20-25 times and run the hell out of Foster/Tate. Will be interesting to see what Kubiak's approach will be this game. That whole 'cut loose' idea wasn't the best gameplan in my opinion. I expected them to scale back a bit and let him get his head right. To say his body language on the sideline spoke volumes would be an understatement.
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Say what you will but Gabbert and McGee put together have never thrown for 4000+ yards in a season so lumping Schaub with those types may be going too far. Schaub to me is in the Jay Cutler/Philip Rivers tier.
In 2011 or pre-injury 12 sure. Now? No way in hell. Cutler and Rivers are clearly way ahead of Schaub looking at the current year. In fact, in both cases, they have had a rebirth of sorts.
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In 2011 or pre-injury 12 sure. Now? No way in hell. Cutler and Rivers are clearly way ahead of Schaub looking at the current year. In fact, in both cases, they have had a rebirth of sorts.
The Bears fan in me will wait and see with Cutler. He's been good except for one game when he reverted to poor mechanics. But you may end up correct in the end and both have one thing that is common...

New head coaches and both offensive minded. I'm sure those wanting Kubes gone like that point.
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Nothing wrong with your list. Scary thing about it is that basically the rest of the team has to be damn near flawless or play a very balanced game for Schaub to have success. It is probably one of the issues but nothing we can do about it. But yeah I agree. Best chance we have to stay alive is to fall back and go conservative mode. At least that way the games can be close instead of these double digit losses that are happening far too often lately. It will also keep the team from getting over demoralized by another bad play/situation.
Not calling him Rodgers, but Rodgers is also having trouble winning games when everything isn't perfect.

I'm also not asking for perfect. Just situationally better. Sunday after Ben Tate fumbled the ball, SF starts on our 8 yard line. Our defense held them to a field goal. This was in the 4th qtr.

Two of Schaub's interceptions gave SF the ball on our 30. Our defense gave up TDs on both. The second one SF scored on a 3 play 69 yard drive. We can't let that happen. If they've got 70 yards to go, we should be able to hold them scoreless regardless how they got the ball.


Also, after the pick 6, Schaub was throwing the ball well on our next drive. He was looking really good. We get down to their 30, on 3rd & 1 Arian picks up the first, but OD is called for holding. It's 3rd & 11, OD is called for a false start. It's 3rd & 16 & Kubiak calls for the worse looking screen I've ever seen. Then the fat Hobbit misses a chip-shot field goal. Then the defense gives up another TD on a 70 yard drive.

That's not stepping up from anyone. All that "we support our QB" yak is just lip service if this is how we "answer" adversity. Arian answered the call, I think Keyshawn answered the call, & there were a few on defense (Cushing, Watt, Mays, Crick, Mitchell were all great). The hold was a ticky-tack call, but the false start? Owen ain't no rookie. Then the play-call for the screen..... I'm not blaming Kubiak for that one, I'm blaming Schaub for not asking for something down field. He needs to show his coach he has the confidence needed to make that call. If the throw isn't there, throw it away & we've still got the field goal...... then missing the field goal.... Again, I keep harping on it but a 70 yard TD drive right there does not say, "We've got his back!!"

We could have played better across the board in that situation. That's a team fail.
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Gabbert has a QBR of 36 on the season. As bad as Schaub has been, he has a 76.9 QBR (which is bad). QBs that have a better rating than Schaub include Sam Bradford, EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Brian Hoyer, Andy Dalton, Alex Smith, Terrelle Pryor, and Jake Locker. Put a few of those in the poll and it'd be an interesting choice.
I think you confused Passer rating and QBR.

a 76.9 QBR at ESPN is actually pretty good since 50 is avg.

BTW- Schaub is a 35.4 QBR, Gabbert a 1.8
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