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Old 10-08-2013   #61
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This world beating defense should have stopped Wilson on 4th and 3 and all this banter is moot, but hold onto whatever accolade you want. For my money KC, SEA, and SF are better defenses than what we have here.
ok, so you'd take 3 other defenses. So with the 4th best (your list) defense you are gonna cry about that? How much would you moan if we actually had a mediocre defense?
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This world beating defense should have stopped Wilson on 4th and 3 and all this banter is moot, but hold onto whatever accolade you want. For my money KC, SEA, and SF are better defenses than what we have here.
They aren't. If Texans had a mobile qb he would expose all those defenses.
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ok, so you'd take 3 other defenses. So with the 4th best (your list) defense you are gonna cry about that? How much would you moan if we actually had a mediocre defense?
Haha, you ninja'ed me..was about to post basically same thing.

Not only that, I mean 4th and 3. Not even 2000 Ravens or 1970's Steelers stopped EVERY 4th and 3 lol. If it was 4th and 15 ok, I get it.....4th and 3?.......................
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You may as well run the ball if your average P/A pass is only 3 yards.

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In fact, Schaub’s average play action pass has been thrown 3.8 yards downfield this season (9.7 yards the previous two seasons), a deeper average than only Blaine Gabbert.

As a result, the Texans have only four 30-plus yard pass plays, tied for 26th in the NFL. None of those pass plays for Texans have come via play action.
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I need to find a job where I can make big mistakes every week that cause me to not be successful but still get paid the big bucks while low and behold... I can just hold myself accountable. how great would that be...
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Teams don't have to take risks against our defense because, right now, they should know our offense will give them a few gifts each game. That shouldn't take anything away from how the defense has performed.

When it comes down to it, if you take away the gift points the Texans have given up by turnovers deep in our territory, pick 6's, and the punt return against Baltimore, the defense is only giving up 16 points a game. That's really good. The offense and special teams is essentially giving up 12 points a game. That's horrible.
That's all true and I agree that the defense is playing well, but you can't say "let's take out these circumstances within each game and look at how things have gone." Everything that happens is part of the game and influences the way teams play against you.
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Texans defense #1 in tha NFL, allowing a paltry 260.2 ypg. Jets are 2nd way back at 299 ypg
If that's 260.2 ypg out of 1000, that's pretty good. If that's 260.2 ypg out of 300, not so much.

If our offense & ST is so bad they've only got to put cover 300 ypg to score 34 points...... how good are we doing?

I believe our defense is playing well, very well. But not as good as the talent we've got on that side of the ball should be playing. If you give up two 70+ yard TD scoring drives in a game, that's a problem. If you give up a 90+ TD Scoring drive & an 80 yard scoring drive in the same game, that's a problem. If you give up a 99 yard TD scoring drive, that's a problem. If you've given up 9 TDs & a field goal in 10 red zone situations, that's a problem.

Not our biggest problem. But there is no way that Matt Schaub, Tj Yates, or Case Keenum are going to be able to hang with Denver (or New England when they get it figured out, & they will) if we're playing defense the way we're playing now. Especially since we are not generating any turn overs.
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This world beating defense should have stopped Wilson on 4th and 3 and all this banter is moot, but hold onto whatever accolade you want. For my money KC, SEA, and SF are better defenses than what we have here.
Yeah but you think you can throw that football over them mountains so I gotta take that with a grain of salt.
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When the game is on the line is when special defenses step up, routine plays are meaningless if you can't get off the field on 3rd downs.

Who's whining? I'm simply stating the obvious, I would think that a Mod would have a more objective view but as is normal on this site they just insult, bait and lead the pach in all around abrasiveness. Take your blinders off bro.
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If that's 260.2 ypg out of 1000, that's pretty good. If that's 260.2 ypg out of 300, not so much.

If our offense & ST is so bad they've only got to put cover 300 ypg to score 34 points...... how good are we doing?

I believe our defense is playing well, very well. But not as good as the talent we've got on that side of the ball should be playing. If you give up two 70+ yard TD scoring drives in a game, that's a problem. If you give up a 90+ TD Scoring drive & an 80 yard scoring drive in the same game, that's a problem. If you give up a 99 yard TD scoring drive, that's a problem. If you've given up 9 TDs & a field goal in 10 red zone situations, that's a problem.

Not our biggest problem. But there is no way that Matt Schaub, Tj Yates, or Case Keenum are going to be able to hang with Denver (or New England when they get it figured out, & they will) if we're playing defense the way we're playing now. Especially since we are not generating any turn overs.
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You may as well run the ball if your average P/A pass is only 3 yards.

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While the flurry of pick 6s rest on Schuab's shoulders the fact that more balls arent going down field has to signal that another problem exist
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When the game is on the line is when special defenses step up, routine plays are meaningless if you can't get off the field on 3rd downs.

Who's whining? I'm simply stating the obvious, I would think that a Mod would have a more objective view but as is normal on this site they just insult, bait and lead the pach in all around abrasiveness. Take your blinders off bro.
why would a moderator have some sort of group-think opinion? If you don't like it here I can fix that you know.
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While the flurry of pick 6s rest on Schuab's shoulders the fact that more balls arent going down field has to signal that another problem exist
everybody is just squatting on that short/intermediate pass now.
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But there is no way that Matt Schaub, Tj Yates, or Case Keenum are going to be able to hang with Denver (or New England when they get it figured out, & they will) if we're playing defense the way we're playing now. Especially since we are not generating any turn overs.
You're assuming the few defensive woes we have can all be laid at the feet of the Defense. It just isn't so.

If the Texans Offense could generate long drives and points, it changes the calculus of the opposing team's gameplan. As it stands right now, the Texans Defense is losing hope and motivation with the Offense laying (goose) eggs.

When you don't score a TD for more than 6 quarters, there's damn little your Defense can do.
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So what if Keenum isn't even active for the Rams game? Yates is obviously the #2, but if the #3 isn't even active, that tells me he is not even preparing for the possibility of yanking Schaub.
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why would a moderator have some sort of group-think opinion? If you don't like it here I can fix that you know.
Do what you have to do, Gestapo tactics don't get far with me anyways. You should allow the site to grow and have different modes of thought instead of force feeding your agenda. My life will still be awesome without Texans Talk, would yours?
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Understandable so what else is keeping the ball from going downfield? Is it play calling? Line play? Another symptom or symptoms have to be compounding Schaub's disease
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Do what you have to do, Gestapo tactics don't get far with me anyways. You should allow the site to grow and have different modes of thought instead of force feeding your agenda. My life will still be awesome without Texans Talk, would yours?
You're assuming people just take what Vinny says and run with it, because he is a moderator or something?

I always see a wide range of opinion on the site.
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I expect Schaub to start - with at least 1 pick and no TDs he will be benched at half. 2 picks and a loss would mean he is benched after the game.

If we win the game and he only throws 1 pick he will remain the starter.

Schaub is aweful this season and I don`t know why. He never was elite, but he was an above average QB for most of his time. Sure, he always had this one terrible stupid throw per game, but overall he moved the ball well. This year we see one brain fart after the next and a lot of problems with his accuracy (even the caught passes are usually low or high and that means no big runs after the catch).

If we can get the Schaub from the past back, I wouldn`t mind him remaining the starter - but the way he is playing (getting worse each game) he has to be benched. Unfortunately I don`t believe Yates or Keenum gives us the better chance to win - but at least they give us the hope that they can improve...
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I'm telling ya, this cat's going to keep Schaub around for at least another year. I'd expect nothing more than status quo

I'm usually not a negative Nancy. I truly want all of them to succeed, including Kubiak and Schaub. I just think this offense has hit the ceiling. Teams have figured out how to scheme against it. But, we'll keep rolling it out there expecting different results. Sure, we'll win some, but not against the upper echelon
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