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View Poll Results: Chance at the playoffs or higher draft spot for QB?
Post Season crap-shoot. 25 58.14%
Higher chance of drafting a top QB. 18 41.86%
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Old 10-07-2013   #21
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i voted for a draft pick but like some1 else said, if Kub is still here it'd be pointless
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There are other ways to get a higher draft pick. Rick Smith needs to figure that out.
I can agree with that. I just think it'd be ideal if we could get into a good enough position to where all we would have to give up is one future 1st pick to swap spots in the top 5-10 picking area. We wouldn't have to throw the farm.

This thread is all hypothetical for the heck of it.
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See what Indy did. They threw away one season and came back much better for the next several. That's how the NFL is set up.
We may a well piss away the rest of this season and draft a top QB. This season is gone anyway; we could profit for many years to come by getting a top QB. We might also benefit by getting rid of Kubiak that way.

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That's an NFL record. Are you saying there is something wrong with our record setting NFL QB?
The no. 8 is cursed with this franchise.

Perhaps two of the most sucktastic QB records in NFL history are both owned by Texans QBs wearing no. 8.

Most sacks in a season, and now 4 pick 6's in four games.



I'm not superstitious, but I'd act like that number doesn't even exist in the future. Why chance it.

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Every single time.
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See what Indy did. They threw away one season and came back much better for the next several. That's how the NFL is set up.
We may a well piss off the rest of this season and draft a top QB. This season is gone anyway; we could profit for many years to come by getting a top QB. We might also benefit by getting rid of Kubiak that way.
But why do we need to throw away a season when you can get guys like Dalton, Kaepernick, & Wilson in the second or third round. Even Tyrelle Pryor was found in the supplemental draft.
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The draft is a bigger crapshoot than the post-season.

And this is coming from a guy who loves the draft.

You play to win the game.
Pretty much.

No reason to lay down and thankfully the Texans aren't the kind of organization that is going to quit on the season.
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See what Indy did. They threw away one season and came back much better for the next several. That's how the NFL is set up.
We may a well piss off the rest of this season and draft a top QB. This season is gone anyway; we could profit for many years to come by getting a top QB. We might also benefit by getting rid of Kubiak that way.
This is how I see it. Considering we probably won't even win the division with the way Colts are playing, what do we gain for making the playoffs just to be booted out early? High fives? Kubiak would certainly feel a lot better about his job which wouldn't be a positive. It would also make the find for a new QB that much difficult if we are picking around or past 20. We still have a lot of young players that we can build off. It really could be the swiftest rebuilding a team could ask for.

Not making the playoffs could relieve the Texans of possibly Schaub and maybe even Kubiak (unlikely). We could make moves and move up for a true athletic QB. What a YOUNG supporting cast he could come into. Talk about a clean slate and fresh start. Our Rivals would hate for that to happen.

What if..
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All of you "play to win the game" guys crack me up a bit. The Colts absolutely TANKED their season to "Win" the suck for Luck game, and in doing so, have re-established themselves as probably the 2nd best team in the AFC in a total of 2 years. So, I guess it depends on whether you are playing to win the football game or the draft game.

In the long term, they will win MANY more games than if they had struggled to find a way to pull out 2 or 3 more wins in their Suck for Luck season.

Short term vs. long term.
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All of you "play to win the game" guys crack me up a bit. The Colts absolutely TANKED their season to "Win" the suck for Luck game, and in doing so, have re-established themselves as probably the 2nd best team in the AFC in a total of 2 years. So, I guess it depends on whether you are playing to win the football game or the draft game.

In the long term, they will win MANY more games than if they had struggled to find a way to pull out 2 or 3 more wins in their Suck for Luck season.

Short term vs. long term.
I agree that the Colts tanked and were smart for doing so. That said, a Luck-level talent only comes around so often.

We should be committed to drafting a QB next year regardless of where we finish. It's obvious that it's the biggest problem on the team right now.
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All of you "play to win the game" guys crack me up a bit. The Colts absolutely TANKED their season to "Win" the suck for Luck game, and in doing so, have re-established themselves as probably the 2nd best team in the AFC in a total of 2 years. So, I guess it depends on whether you are playing to win the football game or the draft game.

In the long term, they will win MANY more games than if they had struggled to find a way to pull out 2 or 3 more wins in their Suck for Luck season.

Short term vs. long term.
Is there another Luck out there?

Suck for AnybodyButSchaub..... doesn't have the same ring & I doubt it would work out as well.. Kaepernick was there in the second. Dalton was there in the second. Schaub came out of the third, Wilson was there in the third.

If Schaub wasn't throwing the other team the ball more than he was throwing it to DeAndre, Kubiak would make that zombie a 12 game winner.

Arian & Watt are going to have to win us a Super Bowl, that's all there is to it.
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All of you "play to win the game" guys crack me up a bit. The Colts absolutely TANKED their season to "Win" the suck for Luck game, and in doing so, have re-established themselves as probably the 2nd best team in the AFC in a total of 2 years. So, I guess it depends on whether you are playing to win the football game or the draft game.

In the long term, they will win MANY more games than if they had struggled to find a way to pull out 2 or 3 more wins in their Suck for Luck season.

Short term vs. long term.
This team has to much talent to lose the next 11 games. As far as I know Luck has already been drafted and there is not a can't miss number one qb in this years draft. So do we tank the whole season for a hit or miss Qb that may not help us one bit? The Colts just happened to be in the right place at the right time and probably didn't try to hard to win near the end of the season but to start losing after 5 games when there is not "one in a decade" qb coming out is a bit crazy.
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2015, maybe.
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No QB worth taking a dive for.

Johnny Football? How much different would Keenum be with the same A&M team?

Bridgewater? Not convinced he is going to translate to NFL yet.

So, I take a shot at the playoffs, preferably with Case at QB.
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This team has to much talent to lose the next 11 games. As far as I know Luck has already been drafted and there is not a can't miss number one qb in this years draft. So do we tank the whole season for a hit or miss Qb that may not help us one bit? The Colts just happened to be in the right place at the right time and probably didn't try to hard to win near the end of the season but to start losing after 5 games when there is not "one in a decade" qb coming out is a bit crazy.
We sure do have the talent, but the two most important pieces (QB/HC) sure can't seem to figure out their dooming problems. Come on, don't tell me you're afraid of drafting a QB! Hey, turns out Gary isn't a QB Guru after all and everyone has their doubts about TJ and Case. We need a major upgrade at the position to get us where we want to be. I don't see how that can be argued. I'm all for seeing if one of our back ups can sling it the way we'd like, but it should be a no-brainer to use our 1st on a QB.

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No QB worth taking a dive for.

Johnny Football? How much different would Keenum be with the same A&M team?

Bridgewater? Not convinced he is going to translate to NFL yet.

So, I take a shot at the playoffs, preferably with Case at QB.
Not a fan of Manziel for the NFL, agreed.

Boyd, Mariota, Hundley? I agree on seeing what Case can do, but I'm not overly optimistic about him taking big hits.
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