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Old 07-08-2005   #1
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The Texans have cap space and play against Trent Green and Peyton Manning, the best QBs in the AFC (screw Brady, hes number 16) and Ty Law can't find a taker. The best CB of his time helping the next big thing? Just a pipe dream or something more?
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The Texans have cap space and play against Trent Green and Peyton Manning, the best QBs in the AFC (screw Brady, hes number 16) and Ty Law can't find a taker. The best CB of his time helping the next big thing? Just a pipe dream or something more?
It wont happpen. Law has been hurt, wants to much money and the Texans feel they are set with P Buch, Dunta, Faggins and the undrafted free agent corner we picked that has blazing speed.
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Like Boulware, there is a reason Law hasn't been signed yet.
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Lets also remember the money thrown at Lewis Sanders.

I can't recall Law ever being linked to the Texans and can't imagine that would change any time soon.
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Can't see us letting Glenn go and throwing $$ at Law.
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Can't see us letting Glenn go and throwing $$ at Law.
We didn't let Glenn go. He wanted to go. It didn't matter how much we would've given him to stay, he wasn't staying. Heck, he still had a year or 2 left on the contract. He demanded a trade/release. Probably had to do with us not asking his opinion on the P-Buch trade and he knew he'd probably get beat out by him by some point in the season if not the pre-season. Not to mention that he's best friends with Me-Shawn Johnson and has always said great things about Parcells. From the way he talked about him it sounded as though he needed the Tuna in his life.

Good Luck to him yet @ the same time I hope the door doesn't hit his behind on the way out. I mean he kinda left us out in the wind. Didn't even give it a chance on top of having loads of $$ still owed to him on his contract that we were gonna honor. Most guys get cut or asked to re-neg. We weren't gonna do that at all. His pride got hurt and he ran. This oughta get some things stirred up but that wasn't my intention.
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glenn wanted to stay in houston, but he also wanted to play. i guess playing time was worth more to him than staying in his hometown.
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Signing law would seemingly go against the grain of our youth movement. Makes not a lot of sense honestly to even contemplate it.
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on sportscenter john clayton said ty law had regained most of his speed, and that he should return strong. he hasnt signed because no team has made the right offer. he said the 2 strongest candidates are indy and jacksonville. looks like trouble for AJ.
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he said the 2 strongest candidates are indy and jacksonville. looks like trouble for AJ.

If ne signs with Indy or Jacksonville... seems more like it looks like trouble for Law... Facing AJ twice a year is no picnic.
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Those teams wouldn't have Law on AJ. They'll go with their best option on AJ and then Law on our 2nd option. That is only in man-to-man coverage.
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It was just an idea. i know Ty will never willingly sign with the texans. The texans should sign the rooks 'fore signing any major free agent. Don't want to end up like the bucs.
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The Texans have cap space and play against Trent Green and Peyton Manning, the best QBs in the AFC (screw Brady, hes number 16) and Ty Law can't find a taker. The best CB of his time helping the next big thing? Just a pipe dream or something more?
He's a pretty big risk until he proves he's back from that foot injury. If he was a bit younger, teams may have bitten by now. But not at his age. He'll land somewhere, probably after camps start.

And what's up with the Brady bashing? You really would rather have 15 QBs before you'd take Tom Brady? Is this fantasy football we're talking about or the NFL?
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I can't even name 16 players in the NFL regardless of position that I would take before Brady.
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I can't even name 16 players in the NFL regardless of position that I would take before Brady.
ray lewis, andre johnson, peyton manning, daunte culpepper, julius peppers, champ bailey, chris mcallister, charles woodson, brian dawkings, orlando pace, dunta robinson, antwan peek, donovan mcnabb, randy moss, marvin harrison, torry holt, TO, i can go on for hours.

I don't hate tom brady, i just think he is the most overrated player ever. People compare him to Montana, but u can't even compare him to daune culpepper or warren moon. He gets all the credit for the Pats success. But even tony banks led a team to the superbowl, though he did not do much. if the pats didn't have a running game or defense, i would agree to the comparisons, but he has both, so he is overrated.
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ray lewis, andre johnson, peyton manning, daunte culpepper, julius peppers, champ bailey, chris mcallister, charles woodson, brian dawkings, orlando pace, dunta robinson, antwan peek, donovan mcnabb, randy moss, marvin harrison, torry holt, TO, i can go on for hours.

I don't hate tom brady, i just think he is the most overrated player ever. People compare him to Montana, but u can't even compare him to daune culpepper or warren moon. He gets all the credit for the Pats success. But even tony banks led a team to the superbowl, though he did not do much. if the pats didn't have a running game or defense, i would agree to the comparisons, but he has both, so he is overrated.
You do realize that the Patriots were 5-11 the season before he took over, and 0-2 when Bledsoe went down with that injury, right? The Patriots climb to dominance has directly coincided with Brady's arrival. How can he just be "getting all the credit" when he was the catalyst for it?

I'm not picking a fight or anything, I'm just making sure you really understand this. The Patriots were a dead-in-the-water franchise without him. Belichick gets a ton of credit for the team's success (as he should), but none of it started until Brady came on the scene. He won't ever wow you with his numbers, but if it's 3rd-and-8 in the 4th quarter and there's no time left to punt, who would you rather have under center than Tom Brady? The guy is clutch, personified. That's why they compare him to Montana.
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ray lewis, andre johnson, peyton manning, daunte culpepper, julius peppers, champ bailey, chris mcallister, charles woodson, brian dawkings, orlando pace, dunta robinson, antwan peek, donovan mcnabb, randy moss, marvin harrison, torry holt, TO, i can go on for hours.

I don't hate tom brady, i just think he is the most overrated player ever. People compare him to Montana, but u can't even compare him to daune culpepper or warren moon. He gets all the credit for the Pats success. But even tony banks led a team to the superbowl, though he did not do much. if the pats didn't have a running game or defense, i would agree to the comparisons, but he has both, so he is overrated.

Who did Tony Banks lead to a Superbowl? He may have been on the 2000 Ravens roster but he certainly didn't lead them anywhere. He was benched in the middle of the season because the offense didn't score a single touchdown in 5 consecutive games. The Patriots won their first 2 Superbowls with Antowain Smith and Kevin Faulk in the backfield. Not much of a running game there.
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Antwan Peek? Come on now. I hope he turns out to be the pass rushing force we desperately need, but to name him as a player you would take over Tom Brady is a complete joke.
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ray lewis, andre johnson, peyton manning, daunte culpepper, julius peppers, champ bailey, chris mcallister, charles woodson, brian dawkings, orlando pace, dunta robinson, antwan peek, donovan mcnabb, randy moss, marvin harrison, torry holt, TO, i can go on for hours.
Out of all of those players you just listed, 3 of the players on there have one superbowl ring.

Tom Brady has three.
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I don't hate tom brady, i just think he is the most overrated player ever. People compare him to Montana, but u can't even compare him to daune culpepper or warren moon. He gets all the credit for the Pats success. But even tony banks led a team to the superbowl, though he did not do much. if the pats didn't have a running game or defense, i would agree to the comparisons, but he has both, so he is overrated.

Dude this is like total insanity here. People compare him to Montana but you can't even compare him to Culpepper or Moon? Where are you getting this from? It's like you're channeling crazy dead people or something.

The thing is Brady IS more like Montana than Culpepper or Moon.

Moon was statistics man. He threw for a bazillion yards and about ten thousand touchdowns but he won exactly zero Super Bowls. Moon compares well to Marino. Moon compares to Peyton (at this time) and Culpepper (again at this time). If those young guys win some rings then they accomplish what Moon never did. Brady's a winner and the comparisons to Joe Montana are dead on. One way or another he wins the Super Bowl. Sure he can have a bad game and get beat by the Dolphins when they're down or come into Reliant and almost get upset by the Texans. Put him in the playoffs or in the Super Bowl though and he's bank.

Tony Banks maybe led the team to the showers after practice once but that's about it. On top of that did you not notice the running game and defense that Joe Montana's 49er's were sporting. I think Roger Craig might take issue with you implying that Joe did it all with no running game. The 49er's were a complete team just like the Patriots are today. Complete teams are great stuff but they don't always win Super Bowls. Jim Kelly's Bills were arguably a complete team but they got no rings. Why? I dunno, maybe they could have used an overrated quarterback like Tom Brady or, dare I say Joe Montana?
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