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Old 10-22-2013   #61
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No quarterback ?! Do you think Keenum is the long term solution that gives you a shot at winning a superbowl ?! He played a solid game against KC but Im still not sold that he's the solution.
i dont know. right now i say keenum is our guy. i absolutely think he has what it takes to be our quarterback, and could be a great one, but only time will tell. as of right now (assuming kubiak doesnt revert back to schaub), i think we are very well off at quarterback. to be honest, i think that we can win it all with a healthy schaub if those two areas are addressed, keenum being a stud as i predict it is just a bonus.

kubiak's offense is predicated on a symbiotic offensive line. wade's defense is wholly dependent on it's linebackers. we have all-world talent on this team in every area but the ones that matter. we've been grabbing players for both with a ton of failures, including a pair of OLB busts this year. to me it really doesnt matter what else we do, if we dont address the offensive line and linebackers we wont be successful.
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As of today, October 22, 2013 The Texans have the 5th pick in the 2014 Draft:

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As of today, October 22, 2013 The Texans have the 5th pick in the 2014 Draft:

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html
That sure would be nice, but we play the Jags twice, and unless we intentionally lose, I think we are at least a 4 win team this year. We also play the Raiders, who will be hard to lose to. I think we will be picking in the 8-12 spot this year, which is just a bit out of reach of the top QBs and OTs.
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Of those three , the only one I like is Bridgewater .... think Hundley needs another year or two and Mariota .... just isn't accurate enough.



Not only do you have to think about trading back , you have to consider trading up to get your guy at QB , even if its making the move to #1.



Same here , I prefer Murray over McCarron and think either could be had in the second assuming the underclassmen thought to be taken earlier all declare. If one or more stays in school another year , that could change the complexion of the draft.
If Gary lets Keenum play out the yr and Case proves he can be the guy and the Texans end up picking in the 10-15 range. (Which is where they probably where they will be picking) I would try to trade down. But If that's not possible my picks would be

Rd.1 Cameron Erving, Has a nasty streak can play RT/LT former DT, he absolutely dominated Beasley last Saturday
Rd.2 Van Noy or Murphy, and I would trade back into the bottom end of the 1st to get them. Best pass russhers in the draft.
Rd. 4 Shane Skov, Smart instinctive ILB would provide depth behind Cushing and Reed after Reed's moved inside.
Rd.5 Best Ol available, provided that he was BPA.

There are too many things wrong with the Texans roster to fix everything in one yr. So concentrate on fixing the OL and LB's this yr and move on to DL and DB's next yr. It's kinda sad that after 8 yrs of roster building that BoB/Rick/Gary's team has so many holes and so little depth.

Of course if Keenum isn't the guy then QB becomes priority #1. McCarron would be my pick of the late 1st early 2nd rd guys. He's got size, arm strength, good enough mobility and plays well under pressure. I look at the fact that he has won NC's as a plus. Not as he played with great talent so he must not be that good. Somebody had to lead that team and MCarron has done a great job. IMHO
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predict the 13th spot & another Watt like impact player
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I don't like this year's crop of QBs, to be honest. I think a couple of them could pan out to be very good, but I don't see a top end high talent guy like Luck, for instance. I think whoever comes out this year will need a little seasoning. Murray could be the best of the bunch of he were given the right opportunity, but he won't get it because he's 6' tall. Not sold on Boyd, not sold on Bridgewater. Haven't seen enough of Mariota yet, though. If the Texans pick high in the draft, I would rather they look at the top of the 2nd rd for a QB.

One guy that I believe will end up going higher than people think right now, and one I wouldn't mind the Texans going after, is Tim Flanders. I know it's not one of the team's glaring weaknesses (yet), but Tate's leaving and I'm not 100% sold that Foster is not another example of the Larry Johnson syndrome. If it turns out that Keenum plays out the string well, then maybe go QB in the 2nd or even 3rd, with a couple OL in the first 4 rounds.

Crazy, I know, but I like Flanders. Plus, we could nickname him Ned.
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I don't like this year's crop of QBs, to be honest. I think a couple of them could pan out to be very good, but I don't see a top end high talent guy like Luck, for instance. I think whoever comes out this year will need a little seasoning.
I agree but I love Manzel. I know a lot of people are down on him but he is the only QB that has a chance to make it to our pick that I wouldn't pass up.

As far as what position I think we should go after with iour first rounder, give me Manzel or Best.Defensive.Player.Available.

On a side note. Why does everyone here just ignore the DT position? A lot of this defensive problems could be masked if we had a quality DT that could comand double teams and push the pocket.
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If the draft were today I would take Johnny Manziel if he comes out and is available. Manziel is a cross between Fran Takenton and Bret Farve.

If Manziel is not available I would take Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford.
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Nix or Mack
Don't over look Ryan Carrether from Ark St who could be available later in draft and compare favorably to Nix. I love Nix but if I could get a run plugger to collapse pocket and use first elsewhere, that is way I'm going. He has lost weight and really is cranking it up.
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Don't over look Ryan Carrether from Ark St who could be available later in draft and compare favorably to Nix. I love Nix but if I could get a run plugger to collapse pocket and use first elsewhere, that is way I'm going. He has lost weight and really is cranking it up.
This is good news, Carrethers has gotten better this yr? He has always had lack of stamina issues. He definitely has talent. I didn't watch him this yr. I did see some of him last yr. He was impressive.

If he has gotten better I wouldn't wait until the 3rd for him. I would pick him in the 2nd. Big men that can move are hard to find. Do you have any links for this yr for him?
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Without winning or losing during our bye week, we have moved down a couple spots to #7.
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Without winning or losing during our bye week, we have moved down a couple spots to #7.
October 29th, = 8th
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If the draft were today I would take Johnny Manziel if he comes out and is available. Manziel is a cross between Fran Takenton and Bret Farve.

If Manziel is not available I would take Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford.
Agreed on Manziel, he's a pit bull playing QB.
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Nix for me.

I like manziel though. There are some concerns but if kubiak is coach I think he could help him out a lot. And he'd give this team a needed edge.
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On a side note. Why does everyone here just ignore the DT position?
Because we can be taught. We excel at pattern recognition. The Texans routinely ignore the DT position, so predicting it in a mock draft is very likely a wrong pick.
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A little more academic than anything, now that we've dropped to #7/8th overall, but BattleRedBlog had a mock of the first round. The first four picks were QBs (Bridgewater, Mariota, Boyd, and Hundley), followed by the Texans took Clowney at #5 overall before trading back into the tail end of the first for Stephen Morris out of Miami.

I'm stilling riding the irrational Manziel draft crush wave, but I wouldn't mind Morris (though perhaps without trading up so much to get him). Getting Clowney and pairing him with Watt would be a little ridiculous.
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A little more academic than anything, now that we've dropped to #7/8th overall, but BattleRedBlog had a mock of the first round. The first four picks were QBs (Bridgewater, Mariota, Boyd, and Hundley), followed by the Texans took Clowney at #5 overall before trading back into the tail end of the first for Stephen Morris out of Miami.

I'm stilling riding the irrational Manziel draft crush wave, but I wouldn't mind Morris (though perhaps without trading up so much to get him). Getting Clowney and pairing him with Watt would be a little ridiculous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

That's how I feel about Morris. Kid should not be taken in the first round. Third, sure. But every time I watch Miami I come away thinking about how many throws he just misses.
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If we're looking for later round QBs, we might as well go with Murray in the 3rd or develop Mannion after nabbing him in the 4th or 5th.

If we're going QB in the first round, it has to be Hundley or Manziel. Both are not immediate starters because Hundley is very raw and Manziel needs to work on being a pocket passer more (which is why I'd like him to stay one more year under Sumlin, but it's not happening). I'm not impressed by Boyd anymore and Mariota... well, Chip Kelly's going to want him.

Because I don't think we go QB in the first round (unless Keenum happens to suck it up for the rest of the season or something) I'd like us to get Nix from ND or Ha-Ha Dix out of Bama. Those would be impact defensive players. If we could get Clowney I would flip **** too.
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