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Old 11-24-2013   #461
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1 bad game vs 24 very good or great games is not going to alter his draft stock/position as much as you think it will.
2 years of bad tape against LSU means quite a bit though.
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1 bad game vs 24 very good or great games is not going to alter his draft stock/position as much as you think it will.
I can dream can't I? I want him to fall into our laps somehow without having to use our likely first overall pick on him.
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1 bad game vs 24 very good or great games is not going to alter his draft stock/position as much as you think it will.
It might make it easier to trade down if the coaching staff (whomever that might) decides that:

A) He's the guy
B) He'll be where we can get him

If his play declines more and it becomes obvious during the Mizzou/bowl game, he could slip a bit to where the team could feel comfortable trading down.

One person whose stock seems to have risen a bit is Mettenberger; again, depending on the coaching staff at the time, I could see him picked up in the late first/early second if we feel like trading up.
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Bridgewater. I thought case was ok, but if we end up with the first pick like I think we will, I'm going bridgewater.
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I never thought it would happen but I'm glad it happened this yr. To get a true franchise caliber qb is great.no more backups,no more trying to adjust the game plan because the qb can't make certain throws. Get bridgewater and fix everything else with the rest of the draft.
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BPA. if QB is BPA then so be it. we have so many holes everywhere. and by the looks it, from a person who watches very little of CFB, it seems that you could very well strike gold with a QB in the drafted both inside and outside the 1st .
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I'd be fine with Bridgewater, Matthews or Clowney......
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QB or pass rusher. The two most important positions on the field, and the Texans have neither.
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QB or pass rusher. The two most important positions on the field, and the Texans have neither.
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After trading back with Cleveland the Texans now have (2) 1st Rd picks, for now let's say #10 and #21.

With their first pick in the NFL Draft The Houston Texans take Blake Bortles, QB Central Florida, 6'4" 230 lbs.

and with their 2nd pick in the 1st RD #21 The Houston Texans take Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa 6'5" 310 lbs.

This will be in my new mock after the season and pre bowl season.

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After trading back with Cleveland the Texans now have (2) 1st Rd picks, for now let's say #10 and #21.

With their first pick in the NFL Draft The Houston Texans take Blake Bartles, QB Central Florida, 6'4" 230 lbs.

and with their 2nd pick in the 1st RD #21 The Houston Texans take Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa 6'5" 310 lbs.

This will be in my new mock after the season and pre bowl season.
If they take Bartles then they need to get JuWaun James .
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If they take Bartles then they need to get JuWaun James .
Scherff is projected to be a late 1st Rd and can also play LT. (the old what if Duane Brown gets inj). James is projected to go in Rds 3-4 and is a RT only.
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Scherff is projected to be a late 1st Rd and can also play LT. (the old what if Duane Brown gets inj). James is projected to go in Rds 3-4 and is a RT only.
Blake Bartles and JuWaun James goes well together .

How bout Dee Ford and Derek Carr ?

what about ... Silas Redd and Alfred Blue ?
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Blake Bartles and JuWaun James goes well together .

How bout Dee Ford and Derek Carr ?

what about ... Silas Redd and Alfred Blue ?
My bad on a couple of fronts, I'm a little slow this evening. First it's Bortles and NOT Bartles. Maybe that why I didn't get your connection. You're right if it had been Bartles, James would've been ideal pick.

You're on a roll this evening keep it going. Apparently I'm on a biscuit. (that's the best I got)
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I never thought it would happen but I'm glad it happened this yr. To get a true franchise caliber qb is great.no more backups,no more trying to adjust the game plan because the qb can't make certain throws. Get bridgewater and fix everything else with the rest of the draft.
Remember all the squalling when Colts lost Manning only to draft Luck? Here we lose Schaub and possibly land a great QB in draft..
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After week 12 the Houston Texans have the 2nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft:

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html
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After week 12 the Houston Texans have the 2nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft:

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html
Don't worry,by the end of season, texans will be 2-14 with the worse record in football.
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2 years of bad tape against LSU means quite a bit though.
Did you watch either of those games?
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Yes I did. Last year doesn't mean as much because he was a freshman. This year will be somewhat of an indictment for those who are not fans of him. There were drops and the guys up front didn't play all that well (Matthews had a pretty bad game, at least for him). But that doesn't change the fact that LSU wrote the book on Manziel.

Press his WR's at the line and get pressure with a talented front four, but stay in your rush lanes and keep him in the pocket. Too many times in that game he had a nice pocket to step into and he bugged out and tried to do his thing instead of hanging in there.

On any given play, he can hang in the pocket and make a great throw. But if you keep him contained to the pocket on every play, he's going to struggle. Especially if you have great athletes on your defense and can matchup downfield. What LSU did to Manziel this past weekend is exactly how NFL teams are going to attack him.
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Yes I did. Last year doesn't mean as much because he was a freshman. This year will be somewhat of an indictment for those who are not fans of him. There were drops and the guys up front didn't play all that well (Matthews had a pretty bad game, at least for him). But that doesn't change the fact that LSU wrote the book on Manziel.

Press his WR's at the line and get pressure with a talented front four, but stay in your rush lanes and keep him in the pocket. Too many times in that game he had a nice pocket to step into and he bugged out and tried to do his thing instead of hanging in there.

On any given play, he can hang in the pocket and make a great throw. But if you keep him contained to the pocket on every play, he's going to struggle. Especially if you have great athletes on your defense and can matchup downfield. What LSU did to Manziel this past weekend is exactly how NFL teams are going to attack him.
If JF can't make it as a QB , I think he would be a great slot reciever .
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