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Old 10-16-2013   #1
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Default Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

I realize this won't be a popular idea , but the fact is this team is bad, but not bad enough to land a top 5 pick this year. I believe we will be a 6 or 7 win team, which would put us around 9-15th pick in the draft this year, depending on how everyone else does.

Currently, the Giants, Jaguars and Bucs are all winless, and don't look like they will improve much as the year goes on. The Giant's defense is absolutely terrible, and they can't stop anyone. The only way they will win a game this year is if Eli goes off and outscores the other team. That certainly could happen, but for the fun of it, let's look at what happens if they both go 0-16.

When two teams have the same record in the regular season, the tiebreakers for draft pick order are as follows:

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Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage. The team with the lowest strength of schedule percentage wins the tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with the same record.

Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.
Besides their division, the Giants play the NFC North, the AFC West, the Panthers and the Seahawks. Currently a SOS of .686.

Besides their division, the Jaguars play the NFC West, AFC West, the Browns and the Bills. Currently a SOS of .722.

You can see now that Jacksonville isn't assured the top pick in the draft by losing out. They could be dependent on how their competition does, and right now our division has 2 more wins than the NFC East. The AFC West is a wash for these two teams, because they are common opponents. The same can be said of the Seahawks, because the Giants play them. That Seahawks matchup is really key for the Giants because it nullifies one of the best teams the Jags would play, thus taking away a 12+ win team that could have been the difference. So if you're rooting for the Giants to get the #1 overall pick, you want the Browns, Bills and AFC South to win a lot of games.

In any case, there is a realistic chance that the Giants would win this tiebreaker and end up with the #1 pick if they lose out. But what would the Giants do with that pick? I don't think they are in the market for a QB, Eli is 32 and has plenty of game left in him, but their defense needs a complete makeover. Jadeveon Clowney is an interesting prospect, but I think a well-run organization like the Giants will know better than to take a chance on him. So I'm suggesting we could make a move to trade JJ Watt for it, because he is a proven commodity and would be a beast in their 4-3.

I love JJ, and I don't want to see him go, but the fact is great defensive players don't win you championships, but QBs can. If you think Bridgewater is truly a franchise QB for the future that has the potential to win a Super Bowl, then I think this move makes sense. We are going to be rebuilding next year, so this would be a major step towards that. Getting a QB of the future is more important than anything else.

So would you do it? Would you take Teddy Bridgewater with the #1 pick or some other QB? Do you think it would take more than Watt to get the #1 pick? Maybe Watt and our #1, whatever that ends up being. It's just a thought, and could be used for mocks if anyone wants to use the idea.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

Heeeeell Vuggin' NO! Not even if I was smoking blue meth out of one side of my mouth while I had a crack pipe in the OTHER.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

That would be hilarious only because it'd piss off thousands of women in the Houston area who are all of a sudden huge Texans fans and have invested a lot of money on pink Watt jerseys. I wouldn't trade Watt for a draft pick because you don't know what you're getting. In the entire NFL I'd only trade him for Aaron Rodgers and maybe Andrew Luck but that's it.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

Trade potentially the best Defensive Lineman to ever play the game?

Wouldn't doubt that it has run through Ricks mind ...

Hell no!
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

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Heeeeell Vuggin' NO! Not even if I was smoking blue meth out of one side of my mouth while I had a crack pipe in the OTHER.
Agreed. I couldn't have said it any better.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

Bridgewater isn't worth Watt, IMO. If I could trade Watt for Andrew Luck, I would. Not so for Bridgewater. We've got good talent in this coming class but not 2012 talent, I don't think. That class of Luck, RGIII, Wilson, and Tannehill might go on to win quite a few rings between the four of them.

Outside the Bridgewater, Boyd, Hundley trifecta, there is no one I really really want for this team (Manziel is just a homer pick, I really think he'd be better off in Philly or something). And I'm not sure I like them enough to trade Watt.

Not to mention I would never trade Watt to the Jags lol
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You don't trade young proven awesomeness for undrafted potential.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

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If I could trade Watt for Andrew Luck, I would.
I have to agree, changing my earlier opinion. But nothing in this class is > Watt.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

No way in hell. I understand what you're getting at, but this Defense is Watt / Cushing then everyone else.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

Nope. All the explaining in the world is not going to convince me that there is a draft pick in the next class that is worth what Watt brings to the field.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

Redskins traded 2 firsts and a second to get RG3...

So far, Watt > the 3 players trying to stop him.
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Default Re: Would You Trade Watt for the #1 Pick?

Let's be clear here....

the only way you consider trading JJ Watt is if he and his agent demand a $100 million/$20 million a year contract. (which is very likely, expect it) familiarize yourself with Reggie White's 1st Green Bay contract.

then and only then would you consider trading JJ Watt

and let's be clear here......

you would only trade JJ Watt for nothing less than (3) THREE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS, and maybe more. (see Herschel Walker)

and if that doesn't work out....

you Franchise JJ Watt for the next 2 years.
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You should't even try to start a thread with trading Watt idea! This is just crazy to me.
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