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Old 10-03-2013   #61
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So Seattle dismantled the 9ers, and the Texans were carving up the Hawks, but you think beating the 9ers is a long shot?
"Were" doesn't help the final score for jack for the Texans, which BTW was played at home, and not on the road like the next one. Considering:

-Schaub's decision making at crucial times in the game, coupled with his 3 pick six's in as many games
-A VERY beat up offensive line
-A prime time road game against last year's super bowl runner up whos QB is very mobile (which the Texans always have trouble stopping)
-The blowout loss to Baltimore and the nail-biting way the Texans barely got their 2 wins
-The way the secondary has allowed dumb penalties/bad coverage so far this season
-The way Kubiak keeps dialing up the same predictable formations that the 49ers are no doubt prepared for since they've had extra time to do so.

......forgive me if I'm not ODing on the Schauberry kool aid like you are.
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Default Re: Ok here it comes....Do the Texans look at aquiring Josh Freeman?

Question.

Do you think Schaub would be able to handle the "pressure" if Josh Freeman were brought in?

Do you think he should be able to?

I ask, because many people are saying we should be looking to draft & prepare Schaub's replacement. No doubt about it, it's different to bring in a drafted rookie than a previous starter, but if the Texans were to bring him in, on the cheap of course, as the eventual replacement, do you think Schaub's psyche would be up to it?
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Josh Freeman aint no Tony Banks thats for damn sure!
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I like Freeman for the Raiders.
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Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith probably had a talk about Josh Freeman already. If they think he's an upgrade over either T.J. Yates or Case Keenum, he's definitely worth signing right now. My question is would it be possible to place Keenum on the practice squad or would another team be able to sign him? A team like the Eagles, for example, keep eyeing players off our practice squad.
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Question.

Do you think Schaub would be able to handle the "pressure" if Josh Freeman were brought in?

Do you think he should be able to?

I ask, because many people are saying we should be looking to draft & prepare Schaub's replacement. No doubt about it, it's different to bring in a drafted rookie than a previous starter, but if the Texans were to bring him in, on the cheap of course, as the eventual replacement, do you think Schaub's psyche would be up to it?
I don't think Matt Schaub can handle the pressure to be honest. Which is why he usually fails in the big games. Not as bad as Tony Romo from Dallas but it seems like when we need a big win on the brightest of lights, Schaub falls apart and crumbles.
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Do you think Schaub would be able to handle the "pressure" if Josh Freeman were brought in?

Do you think he should be able to?

I ask, because many people are saying we should be looking to draft & prepare Schaub's replacement. No doubt about it, it's different to bring in a drafted rookie than a previous starter, but if the Texans were to bring him in, on the cheap of course, as the eventual replacement, do you think Schaub's psyche would be up to it?
Schaub can't handle the pressure, regardless of Freeman and yes, I think he should be able to.

I still haven't heard anything close to a convincing argument against Yates. I was a HUUUUUUGE Keenum supporter in the PS, but I think Yates can do just fine as a starter. He's shown he has a very good handle on the offense and has big time starting experience. I see no reason to expect Yates to revert back to rookie form if he's starting and Kubiak will usually go with experience when given the choice.
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If we're gonna replace Schaub, we need to do it with a potential franchise QB, not a scrub like Freeman.
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If we're gonna replace Schaub, we need to do it with a potential franchise QB, not a scrub like Freeman.
This team is so stacked we don't need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl with. All we need is somebody who doesn't make boneheaded mistakes and turnovers. Give me a good game manager like Alex Smith and we'd be talking about becoming NFL champions. He's doing a mighty fine job in Kansas City I might add.
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This team is so stacked we don't need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl with. All we need is somebody who doesn't make boneheaded mistakes and turnovers. Give me a good game manager like Alex Smith and we'd be talking about becoming NFL champions. He's doing a mighty fine job in Kansas City I might add.
When I mentioned Smith last year (just before Schaub was extended) I was laughed out of the building .... Now I don't seem so silly afterall.


I'd have taken Smith then , I'd take him now. 23-5-1 as a starter in the NFL from 2011/12&13 .... those are gaudy numbers even if his stats are pedestrian.
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When I mentioned Smith last year (just before Schaub was extended) I was laughed out of the building .... Now I don't seem so silly afterall.

I'd have taken Smith then , I'd take him now. 23-5-1 as a starter in the NFL from 2011/12&13 .... those are gaudy numbers even if his stats are pedestrian.
I still don't think Smith is any better than Schaub. Trust me, I'm not a Schaub fan at all and would like to see him benched, but the fact is Alex Smith has been on teams with a lot of talent. I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm willing to bet Smith's passing attempts per game are much lower than Schaub's. We're not just a running team. We rely on the pass as well, and I don't believe Smith offers that.

Wins don't make a player good. It's a team game. Doesn't Tebow have a ridiculous amount of wins as a starter as well?

With that said, I would love for the Texans to take a look at Freeman. With the right coaching, I think he can be a much better passer than Matt Schaub. But then again, that's not saying much...
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I still don't think Smith is any better than Schaub. Trust me, I'm not a Schaub fan at all and would like to see him benched, but the fact is Alex Smith has been on teams with a lot of talent. I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm willing to bet Smith's passing attempts per game are much lower than Schaub's. We're not just a running team. We rely on the pass as well, and I don't believe Smith offers that.

Wins don't make a player good. It's a team game. Doesn't Tebow have a ridiculous amount of wins as a starter as well?

With that said, I would love for the Texans to take a look at Freeman. With the right coaching, I think he can be a much better passer than Matt Schaub. But then again, that's not saying much...
Here's a post from before Schaub was extended showing Smith's 2011 attempts Vs Int's .....


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Smith is a limited QB like Schaub .... he is a little more mobile tho.

Upgrade ? I don't know .... but like Schaub Smith doesn't make many mistakes. He threw a total of 5 INT's in 445 attempts last season. That's taking care of the ball.
He's also more mobile and has a stronger arm .... even if only marginally better in either.

That's a QB who went 13-3 last year and was on track to repeat that prior to being sidelined by an injury, Smith was 6-2 as the starter while Colin Kaepernick has gone 4-2-1 with that same team .... with a loss and tie to a .500 Rams team.
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Attempts / Int's / Int percentage.

Smith
2011 445/5 1.1%
2012 218/5 (injury shortened benched for Kaepernick the final 6) 2.3%
2013 146/2 1.4%


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2011 292/6 2.1% (Lisfranc injury)
2012 544/12 2.2%
2013 177/6 3.4%
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"Were" doesn't help the final score for jack for the Texans, which BTW was played at home, and not on the road like the next one. Considering:

-Schaub's decision making at crucial times in the game, coupled with his 3 pick six's in as many games
-A VERY beat up offensive line
-A prime time road game against last year's super bowl runner up whos QB is very mobile (which the Texans always have trouble stopping)
-The blowout loss to Baltimore and the nail-biting way the Texans barely got their 2 wins
-The way the secondary has allowed dumb penalties/bad coverage so far this season
-The way Kubiak keeps dialing up the same predictable formations that the 49ers are no doubt prepared for since they've had extra time to do so.

......forgive me if I'm not ODing on the Schauberry kool aid like you are.
Is that all you got? "ODing on Schauberry Kool aid" What, are 13 or 14 years old? And geez thanks for pointing out it is a road game captain obvious. I will now change my opinion since you pointed that out to me and the Texans have never won on the road either. I mean, why even make the flight? The Texans have no chance right?

Last years super bowl runner up does not mean squat. That was last year, and they look nothing like last years team, nor does Kaepernick look like the superman you all are making him out to be.

The Texans did not have a problem containing a mobile QB against the Hawks until the 4th quarter when Phillips went away from the spy and Cushing was out of the game. You just pull every anecdotal excuse out and throw it out there. All so if the Texans lose you can say, "See I Told You So." Just keep following the herd and keep using phrases like ODing on Schuaberry kool aid.

If the Colts beat them, the Texans can beat them.

Haterade anyone?
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The Texans did not have a problem containing a mobile QB against the Hawks until the 4th quarter when Phillips went away from the spy and Cushing was out of the game. You just pull every anecdotal excuse out and throw it out there. All so if the Texans lose you can say, "See I Told You So." Just keep following the herd and keep using phrases like ODing on Schuaberry kool aid.

If the Colts beat them, the Texans can beat them.

Haterade anyone?
Phillips didn't go away from the spy .... the only difference was C(r)ushing being replaced by Sharpto(o)n).


Damnit , I hope like hell the Texans win this next game , the difference between making the playoffs at 2-3 (>20%) Vs. that of a 3-2 team (<51%) is pretty significant.
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The Texans did not have a problem containing a mobile QB against the Hawks until the 4th quarter when Phillips went away from the spy and Cushing was out of the game. You just pull every anecdotal excuse out and throw it out there. All so if the Texans lose you can say, "See I Told You So." Just keep following the herd and keep using phrases like ODing on Schuaberry kool aid.

If the Colts beat them, the Texans can beat them.

Haterade anyone?
Phillips didn't go away from the spy .... the only difference was C(r)ushing being replaced by Sharpto(o)n).


Damnit , I hope like hell the Texans win this next game , the difference between making the playoffs at 2-3 (>20%) Vs. that of a 3-2 team (<51%) is pretty significant.
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Just like I think benching Schaub after that second INT vs Seattle, I think it would be a good idea to "work out" Josh Freeman.

If Schaub can't handle it, it's telling. This coddling, HC falling on the sword for him doesn't appear to be working & I think he needs a kick in the butt.

I believe Schaub can turn it around, I need that to happen sooner rather than later. If he had called the player's only meeting (I know how pointless many think this is) I'd feel better about Matt being on the right track. As it is, I think he needs help to get where he needs to be.

& if the coaches are aware of any "possible" issues with his foot their current approach does not make any sense.
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Just like I think benching Schaub after that second INT vs Seattle, I think it would be a good idea to "work out" Josh Freeman.

If Schaub can't handle it, it's telling. This coddling, HC falling on the sword for him doesn't appear to be working & I think he needs a kick in the butt.

I believe Schaub can turn it around, I need that to happen sooner rather than later. If he had called the player's only meeting (I know how pointless many think this is) I'd feel better about Matt being on the right track. As it is, I think he needs help to get where he needs to be.

& if the coaches are aware of any "possible" issues with his foot their current approach does not make any sense.

This is the biggest game of Schaubs career coming up. All of this right track talk can only be answered on Sunday.
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