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Old 09-22-2013   #61
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Default Re: Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?

The original question should have been "Why haven't the Texans told the fans they have a veteran kicker on speed dial?" If your trying to instill confidence in your rookie kicker there's a pretty obvious answer to that question.

If you don't think Rick Smith has an updated and ranked list of veteran FA kickers in his desk drawer then you have no faith in our GM.
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I didn't feel like reading through 4 pages of this but let it be known , Randy Bullock is not going anywhere anytime soon.
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Default Re: Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?

I think the Texans should go back to last season's offensive philosophy and go for field goals instead of touchdowns so we can see just how reliable the kid can be. He's attempted four kicks in his NFL career only one was shorter than 50 yards.

The kid need some real game kicks to forge his psyche unto a thing of iron, so we need to turtle up, keep the game close & get Bullock in as many game winning situations as possible. Then if he misses one kick it will cost us a game & the people calling for a kicker competition after week two will be justified.
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First, bringing in another kicker during the week is SOP in the NFL. It's been done forever. And if the incumbent kicker can't handle that pressure with coaches watching, how will he handle it on Sundays with 70,000 watching?

I'm not saying it's time to cut Bullock loose. But, it's not too soon to bring in some competition if he has another shaky week. Because kicker is far and away the easiest position at which to make a midseason change.
It's not how they react during the practice, but it's how they play during the game, with the added pressure of knowing another guy is in the stands who the coach is looking at bringing in for your job. I just do not see trying out other kickers as a productive way to give Bullock the maximum chance of success with this team. The best way, is exactly what Kubiak has done - praised him in public - and tried to take as much pressure off him as possible.

I don't think I'm going to see eye to eye with many people here about changing the kicker, and that's fine. I do maintain however, that I would find it a far easier decision as coach to play Tate as starting running back for the week, rather than Foster - instead of the ramifications (i.e. player cuts etc) of changing a prospect kicker.
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Default Re: Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?

Who is out there that is better than Bullock? Let me rephrase that, who is out there that is better than bullock and can keep teams from having the chance to return the ball on kickoffs.

Yes he's missed some long ass kicks. He's also made the opponent go 80 yards instead of 50. So far this year, 11% (1 of 9) kickoffs have been returned. Last year? 70% (28 of 87).

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Consider the source. This team, FO, coaching staff are all worthless and have always been and always will be. You've heard references of those that will whine and snivel if we win the SB. The OP is exhibit "A".

Only way we'll win another game is if we can sign Cap or Wilson. Oh and Tom Dempsey too. Pffft
You clearly are incapable of understanding the bigger picture. Not sure why this is so difficult to understand. Some of you can't put the homerish bias aside. I see this every season.
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Who is out there that is better than Bullock? Let me rephrase that, who is out there that is better than bullock and can keep teams from having the chance to return the ball on kickoffs.

Yes he's missed some long ass kicks. He's also made the opponent go 80 yards instead of 50. So far this year, 11% (1 of 9) kickoffs have been returned. Last year? 70% (28 of 87).

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So now being able to kick into the end zone is more important then kicking fgs to put points on the board? Lol! The justifications in this thread get sillier by the minute. Oh my god, how could we even think of trying out a new kicker for competition. What a crazy idea. This guy is going to be fine just because........
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I think the Texans should go back to last season's offensive philosophy and go for field goals instead of touchdowns so we can see just how reliable the kid can be. He's attempted four kicks in his NFL career only one was shorter than 50 yards.

The kid need some real game kicks to forge his psyche unto a thing of iron, so we need to turtle up, keep the game close & get Bullock in as many game winning situations as possible. Then if he misses one kick it will cost us a game & the people calling for a kicker competition after week two will be justified.
That's what I'm talking about. To hell with touchdowns. Let's rehab our kicker.
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Default Re: Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?

That's what I'm talking about. More confidence for our kicker.
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You clearly are incapable of understanding the bigger picture. Not sure why this is so difficult to understand. Some of you can't put the homerish bias aside. I see this every season.
Don't talk down to me Tex. I'm clearly very capable of understanding way more than (not then) the big picture. I don't agree that your alleged "homerish bias" is at play at all here. Knee-jerk hatoraid is what I'm seeing from you.

I see this every season.

Several posters have already stated, more eloquently than I could that there's (to some at least) sound reasoning that he's not gotten the hook yet. I agree that so far he's had the most serious case of the yips that I've witnessed in 50 years of watching NFL football but I also agree with those that say IF he can overcome it we'll have a solid place kicker.

If he can't shake the pulls and pushes fairly quickly then I agree that we might need to look elsewhere. If that happens though don't come back pissin' and moanin' because Denver (or whatever team) snags him and he goes on to an illustrious career.

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Default Re: Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?

After three weeks of watching Schaub I think the real question is "Why aren't we trying to find a QB?"

That's just how I get when Matt goes on one of his patented Pick-Six runs.
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Don't talk down to me Tex. I'm clearly very capable of understanding way more than (not then) the big picture. I don't agree that your alleged "homerish bias" is at play at all here. Knee-jerk hatoraid is what I'm seeing from you.

I see this every season.

Several posters have already stated, more eloquently than I could that there's (to some at least) sound reasoning that he's not gotten the hook yet. I agree that so far he's had the most serious case of the yips that I've witnessed in 50 years of watching NFL football but I also agree with those that say IF he can overcome it we'll have a solid place kicker.

If he can't shake the pulls and pushes fairly quickly then I agree that we might need to look elsewhere. If that happens though don't come back pissin' and moanin' because Denver (or whatever team) snags him and he goes on to an illustrious career.

's outta here...
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Consider the source. This team, FO, coaching staff are all worthless and have always been and always will be. You've heard references of those that will whine and snivel if we win the SB. The OP is exhibit "A".

Only way we'll win another game is if we can sign Cap or Wilson. Oh and Tom Dempsey too. Pffft
Well you don't get to tell me how to talk to you. You get what you give and all you gave was a contribution with bitter remarks and hurt feelings because of some unknown kicker that you're sensitive about for some reason. You don't have to agree and you can have all the confidence in the world in the guy, but when you also state

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I agree that so far he's had the most serious case of the yips that I've witnessed in 50 years of watching NFL football

You really don't make a lot sense for getting all butt hurt about the idea of questioning why our coach wouldn't try out some other kickers in practice.
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Don't talk down to me Tex. I'm clearly very capable of understanding way more than (not then) the big picture. I don't agree that your alleged "homerish bias" is at play at all here. Knee-jerk hatoraid is what I'm seeing from you.

I see this every season.

Several posters have already stated, more eloquently than I could that there's (to some at least) sound reasoning that he's not gotten the hook yet. I agree that so far he's had the most serious case of the yips that I've witnessed in 50 years of watching NFL football but I also agree with those that say IF he can overcome it we'll have a solid place kicker.

If he can't shake the pulls and pushes fairly quickly then I agree that we might need to look elsewhere. If that happens though don't come back pissin' and moanin' because Denver (or whatever team) snags him and he goes on to an illustrious career.

's outta here...
Personally, I don't think Tex is a hater. I think he's been more reasonable and fair about the team than a lot of people. Some people, myself included, are fans, but are not above pointing out critical issues with the team. That doesn't make us haters; that makes us fans.
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I think kicker is the least of our worries.
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Personally, I don't think Tex is a hater. I think he's been more reasonable and fair about the team than a lot of people. Some people, myself included, are fans, but are not above pointing out critical issues with the team. That doesn't make us haters; that makes us fans.
Every team has it's warts, especially this early in the season. Focusing on ours just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'm not saying ignore them, but understand that "our way" isn't the only way. You ask, "Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?" Understand that some people are going to see that as knee jerk after week 2 when we're 2-0

The kid was 1-1 week 1. Should we put him in the Texans ring of honor?

He was 1-4 in week 2..... so we need to bring in a kicker. Don't think a good ole fashion ass chewing would suffice? Or maybe the sick to his stomach feeling he's got is enough.

Bullock was 3-3 today & the only Texan to put points on our side of the score-board... so should we commission a statue?

Just because we don't agree with bringing in a kicker to compete with Bullock doesn't mean we're extremely pleased with his performance to date.
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Every team has it's warts, especially this early in the season. Focusing on ours just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'm not saying ignore them, but understand that "our way" isn't the only way. You ask, "Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?" Understand that some people are going to see that as knee jerk after week 2 when we're 2-0

The kid was 1-1 week 1. Should we put him in the Texans ring of honor?

He was 1-4 in week 2..... so we need to bring in a kicker. Don't think a good ole fashion ass chewing would suffice? Or maybe the sick to his stomach feeling he's got is enough.

Bullock was 3-3 today & the only Texan to put points on our side of the score-board... so should we commission a statue?

Just because we don't agree with bringing in a kicker to compete with Bullock doesn't mean we're extremely pleased with his performance to date.
Wait! Are we allowed to be logical on Sundays after a loss?
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Every team has it's warts, especially this early in the season. Focusing on ours just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'm not saying ignore them, but understand that "our way" isn't the only way. You ask, "Why aren't we trying to find a kicker?" Understand that some people are going to see that as knee jerk after week 2 when we're 2-0

The kid was 1-1 week 1. Should we put him in the Texans ring of honor?

He was 1-4 in week 2..... so we need to bring in a kicker. Don't think a good ole fashion ass chewing would suffice? Or maybe the sick to his stomach feeling he's got is enough.

Bullock was 3-3 today & the only Texan to put points on our side of the score-board... so should we commission a statue?

Just because we don't agree with bringing in a kicker to compete with Bullock doesn't mean we're extremely pleased with his performance to date.
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You know what. A new kicker would have made a difference today
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You know what. A new kicker would have made a difference today
Haha. If only there were a kicker whose field goals were worth 7 instead of 3 points!

Despite the poor all round performance today, I'm sure we can all agree that Bullock looked infinitely better, and that it is good to see him getting a rhythm, on the back of the support that his coach gave him midweek, whilst he was working his ass off on the training field to try and get himself out of his slump, rather than having to split his time with the veteran kicker that was being called for to try and dislodge Bullock's spot. Good job to the whole kicking unit, and to the coaching staff.
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